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Engine, ain't broke don't fix it, or freshin up while it out vote.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rollinrust, Apr 14, 2010.

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  1. Leave it be and drive the dam thing!!

    26.4%
  2. Freshin it all up at this perfect time.

    66.0%
  3. Just the oil pump

    1.9%
  4. Just the pump seals and main/rod bearings if visibly worn.

    11.3%
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  1. rollinrust
    Joined: Oct 12, 2008
    Posts: 41

    rollinrust
    Member

    Guys I am very please with the 261 chevy I picked up out a good running 54 chevy 2 ton today to go into my 49 chevy coupe. It started and reved great even with old gas. No knocks or even tics. $500 sound like alot fora greasy old 6 cylinder but it is what i wanted.

    Here is the million dollar question. I am already going to have covers, oil, pan and head of for valve job and unleade seats update. I am going to put a seal kit in it stop the leaks and clean it up a bit. These things are decided.

    What i am not sure about is if i should just take the rod and main caps off and see if they are standard or oversized and replaced them and the oil pump. This is the hard to get to stuff while in the car. Like I said it sounded great and had great (cold) oil pressure, so it may last forever or a day.
     
  2. GassersGarage
    Joined: Jul 1, 2007
    Posts: 4,726

    GassersGarage
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    I always go new or rebuilt. One thing I hate is to dig into the engine after the car is running/driving. Also, I know what I got.
     
  3. Mike Miller
    Joined: Oct 13, 2008
    Posts: 4,559

    Mike Miller
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    If I wasn't going to take it apart for the rest of that stuff I'd run it, but my experiance with used engines is once disturbed the grease gods get angry. So I'd freshen it up.
     
  4. Ravenwood
    Joined: Feb 26, 2009
    Posts: 237

    Ravenwood
    Member
    from Texas

    I second that... (Angry grease gods are like a moody female.)
     
  5. Warpspeed
    Joined: Nov 4, 2008
    Posts: 532

    Warpspeed
    Member

    I would freshen it up. Check bearing clearances, lightly hone bores and fit new rings. I would also pull the oil pump apart, and at least have a look inside.

    Even with sweet running engines I have found rings gummed up and stuck solid in the ring grooves, and badly scored oil pump housings. Maybe the last owner never changed the oil?
     
  6. terd ferguson
    Joined: Jun 13, 2008
    Posts: 3,734

    terd ferguson
    Member

    Stovebolts will run forever if properly maintained and not over revved. Engine parts, or a full rebuild is/are ridiculously expensive. Stop the leaks, do the valve job and run it!
     
  7. Salty
    Joined: Jul 24, 2006
    Posts: 2,258

    Salty
    Member
    from Florida

    Every engine I pull out that aint gonna get freshened up always gets new seals, gaskets and an oil pump as well as all of the bearings checked, mic'd and cleaned (oil p***ages included)

    at the very least do that, wont take much time and you'll have a better idea on what time it is engine wise.
     
  8. Hitchhiker
    Joined: May 1, 2008
    Posts: 8,507

    Hitchhiker
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    Just last year I let a water pump turn into a full rebuild on my 460 in my f250.....don't get carried away.
     
  9. Coke-bottle
    Joined: May 14, 2008
    Posts: 273

    Coke-bottle
    Member

    Freshin' the dam thing!!!!
     
  10. HEATHEN
    Joined: Nov 22, 2005
    Posts: 9,057

    HEATHEN
    Member
    from SIDNEY, NY

    If it were mine, I'd pull it apart. I once tore down a 235 that sounded fine and didn't seem to smoke, and found a broken ring. Besides, I don't think that 55 year old gaskets are the way to go. A gasket set and rings won't cost you that much, and if the valve guides end up being worn, they're removable and still available from just about any parts store. If you don't already know this, the exhaust valves are the same as the 1.5 inch valve used in millions of sbcs, and are therefore dirt cheap.
     
  11. markjenks
    Joined: Aug 31, 2009
    Posts: 384

    markjenks
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    I just tore down the 235 for a 53 chevy.. Going to replace all the gaskets, hone and rering, rebuilt the oil pump and put in new timing gears. Also redid the head since it was burning alot of oil.

    When I pull the rods and crank, I'm going to check everything else out and see what it really needs. As long as nothing is majorly wrong, I'm going to ****on it back up.
     
  12. MARTINSPEED
    Joined: Nov 18, 2007
    Posts: 296

    MARTINSPEED
    Member

    i agree with heathen check your guides, valve seats, give her a hone, new rings, oil pump and fel pro gaskets, bearings are around cheap on ebay etc if you look. ive pulled apart good running engines and found seized and broken rings with sad bearings. It ****s to take an engine back out after hes been painted and got yourself all stoked up. -andrew
     
  13. belair
    Joined: Jul 10, 2006
    Posts: 9,036

    belair
    Member

    You can pay me now, or you can pay me later....
     
  14. ken1939
    Joined: Jul 5, 2008
    Posts: 1,558

    ken1939

    Well geeze, this is tough. On one hand, I would say leave the bottom end alone. Your not pulling trailers with this thing. But, since you already pulled the head, and want to put a oil pump in it, your not that far from pulling it all apart. I spoke with a local shop on doing a 31 Chevy engine. He said from the machine shop standpoint, if the cylinders arent far off, they can be re-ringed and new bearings easy. (that is the condensed conversation) Course thats if all the planets align for me.

    I am putting a 31 Chevy together and want a driver engine so I dont have to pull one apart. The one in the engine turns by hand nice and I want to check the compression. However, the fantasy that I could get it to run after who knows how long of hibrenation would be silly. I am getting two possible motors that were running, and I feel safer with them.
     
  15. hotroddon
    Joined: Sep 22, 2007
    Posts: 28,240

    hotroddon
    Member

    I say look at this from a practical point of view. Just cause it isn't doing anything funny doesn't mean it's not about too. I felt really fine the day before my heart stopped due to a blocked artery!
    I would first do a compression check and leak down to know whats up with ring seal. Than pull it apart and have a look. If the bearing are good, leave em alone. If they are bad, change em. Also look at the timing chain and oil pump. Off you go.
     
  16. ocfab
    Joined: Dec 26, 2007
    Posts: 678

    ocfab
    Member

    now is the time!
     
  17. mac762
    Joined: Jun 28, 2007
    Posts: 676

    mac762
    Member

    I would just drive it and not worry about the hardened seats.
    But if you pull it apart to get a valve job, why not put a little bit oversized cam in it and new oil pump rings ect?
     
  18. rollinrust
    Joined: Oct 12, 2008
    Posts: 41

    rollinrust
    Member

    Got the head off to take in to the shop tomorrow. Cleaned off the top of the pistons with a wire cup brush and see .010" So I ***ume it has been rebuilt and bored out once over it past 50 plus years. I will get in the oil pan this week and let you know what I find. We will see if the bearings are oversized or not too.

    Ray
     
  19. Master of None
    Joined: Dec 18, 2009
    Posts: 2,279

    Master of None
    Member

    Do it now! last time I did something like this I had to pull the motor a month later....because one of the bearings let go.
     

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