Paint longevity. I know there are about 100 different variables to this question (such as brand, prep,temp etc), but which is the longer lasting type of paint? -Lacquer -Enamel -Two stage The reason I ask is I want to paint my Vespa, Motorcycle wheels, frame, Apache truck bumpers etc. Which paint type of paint is the more durable type? And yes, like most people on this board, I want to paint as cheap as possible. No more than say a 100-150 bucks a gallon.
Neither lacquer or enamel have any UV protection, so I would vote for two stage. Your color will probably dictate the price. Stand by for the correct answer.
I completely understand not wanting to spend too much money on anything as worthless as a Vespa, so may I suggest bedliner?
My harley's frame is powdercoated and it's really. really durable. I've seen no other paint (except bedliner but it's not very smooth) that could take near the abuse of powdercoating. I don't think it's terribly expensive (it's been almost 20 yrs, since I had anything done) either but not as cheap as paint. I'd get an estimate on powdercoat before I bought any paint, you might be surprised.
Ive never sprayed laquer but have heard that it yellows after a couple of years. Correct me if im wrong anyone please. Ive heard urethanes r more durable. But this can also b preferance.
as far as cost goes, some of the local places that powder coat parts for industry (i.e. they powder coat black things on Tuesday) is cheaper to do black powder coat than it is to buy the paint and reducer to paint something black.
Powder Coat it, last longer than paint will if the metal is prepared properly. Make sure whoever you take it to Media blast, or acid pickles the metal, then Iron, or Zinc phosphate it, then applies powder. Only then will you have a durable, long lasting coating.
Urethane is far more durable than your other two choices. Buy good quality materials if you want to last a long time. if you are going to store something inside, it isn't as important.
you want durability and to last?? Go with the latest and greatest!! Acrylic urethane, urethane, or waterbase
If your lookinf for a nice looking long lasting paint job, go with urethane. If you're looking to just get paint on the items and for it to be a little bit more durable, but not as nice, use something like Rustoleum or any other alkyld enamel.
Hey, -Lacquer: Nope, whyle it will be easy for even someone who's never painted anything to produce a good looking job, it will not be very durable. -Enamel: Both Alkyd & Acrylic Enamel's durability can be vastly improved with the addition of a catalyst, but the addition of such makes for some very toxic ****. Unless a proper fitting spray mask and the very minium of safety precautions are followed serious health risks can arise! -Two Stage:Both epoxy and urethane based finishes offer preminum durability and probably the best bang for your buck over time. There is no such thing as cheap paint! A finish that only lasts a year or two before problems arise and thus must be repaired or refinished isn't a bargin at all! Powder coated finishes can not be repaired if damaged and must be stripped off and refinished complete. "Pictuer All Experts As If They were Mammals "
The toughest paint I've ever seen is Imron.. that stuff is like iron. don't know if you can even buy it anymore. Nasty stuff to spray....not cheap either. Like Pimpin said, there is no cheap paint. Pay now or pay later.
Hey, Prior to the advent of acrylic resins in the late fifties, all automotive enamel was synthetic. The fact that these finishes contained high levels of heavy metals in their pigments, and that they were over baked at the factory ment that they generally held up well. This was not at all the case with shop sprayed cheep synthetic enamel. "That Which Can Be ***erted Without Evidence, Can Be Dismissed Without Evidence "
You could buy an ol Ford that hadn't been waxed in years and buff it out every time if it was orig paint . Good enamel. I have friends with cars I painted for them 20yrs ago that still look good. Painted with acrylic enamel. PPG or Centari.
I didn't know about the factory use of syntetic enamel, I was talking about the Martin Senior SE that NAPA used to sell in the 80s, it would chalk up in about 6 or 8 mos, and yea I did.... I kind of ***umed it was all all the same.....
Nads, Nads, Nads, Nads.....what am I going to do with you? I just picked up a 64 Allstate and I kinda like it! besides my wife thinks Im a hero for getting her a Vespa. So Urethane it is! The price of PPG clear with the UV protection kinda be kind of pricey and I plan on using no metallic color just straight colors. Thanks all.
So Urethane it is! The price of PPG clear with the UV protection kinda be kind of pricey and I plan on using no metallic color just straight colors. Thanks all.[/QUOTE] Hey, If money for paint is in short supply you may wanna look into DuPont's Nason or Southernurethanes product lines. Neither of these have the big snob name of the big dogs on the paint shelves, but offer pretty good service for your paint dollar. Bikes, as a general rule don't see the service that vehicles do and a preminum acrylic enamel or synthetic with a hardener, may serve you well. Deep reds, yellows & golds all command preminum prices over other colours. "Do not reach greedily for the Kool-Aid "
I've had the best luck with urethanes.There are some Harleys running around here I painted 10 or more years ago that have been rode hard and still look good.I have used Dupont Nason with good results too and the price is good.Don't know how it will look long term though.
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