I may have a chance to buy a 32 3 window and i was wondering what a bone stock unrestored and in fair condition one would cost give or take
An arm,a leg and both nuts! They don't go cheap,,,,,,,Is it a nice running original or a dead player,,,,If they know what they have,,, BIG BUCKS. A guy here in my neck of the woods has one and has turned down insane money,,,,,ask Deuce Roadster,,,he has found a bunch and has been unable to buy any of them and he is willing to pay their price and they back out of the deal! If you want it and can afford it,,, BUY IT! If you can't afford it or won't pay the price,,,tell Deuce about it,,,he's still lookin'!
$30 000,- Give or take some BIG bucks ... depending on your "Fair-cond" description.. Hope you get it ..
Dole 500, That's a loaded question. Some guys are reporting prices upwards of $30-50K. A repro steel body sells for about $10K, right? There's too much of a range to really know. Only you know your limit. PS: You should take a second look at your signature quote.
Its got to be kinda like being BLACKMAILED..........its no longer what is fair its what they can extract from a willing participant. Id say if its a doable car and rough it will bring 10-15 if at all nice it will bring over 25K if its NICE the skys the limit!
[ QUOTE ] A repro steel body sells for about $10K, right? [/ QUOTE ] Where can ya get a steel repro 3-window for that? HRP
Yes--those prices above are like 1995. I've seen body shells with rustout, bad chop jobs, and expensive missing parts galore drawing lots of interest with prices in the 20's. I think the new repro bodies, prices predicted in the 20's and not yet available, may drive prices UP on originals by making it more practical to complete a ragged or incomplete body...right now, if you need ANYTHING for a three window, you are in deeep trouble.
And to think I turned my brother onto one I had that was a rough old 50's channelled car. He begged me for a year till I gave in. He had it maybe 6 months and sold it for 2500. That was about 7 years ago. He's still living only because he's my brother. BUT I'll never give him another one. SNIFF Keith
I gave up years ago ... If you can`t afford to play , then give it a rest ...and that is like GOOD advice !! The guy who allways wanted a `32 3W will probably never get one , and the guy with more $$ than desire might end up with one because someone told him that a `32 3winder is THE thing these days !!10 years ago I didn`t need more than 2 hands to count the guys in Scandinavia who knew their stuff . Today , people come by my door like they have been into this thing of ours for years !! They ask Q`s`, get answers , and an hour later they act like they have known it all along !! ANY guy with money in pocket & a desire to be a part of the "scene" will probably outbid most of us .CRAP .. Life ain`t fair anymore ... .....
Yes, the word is the B-Ville price will start with a 2. TWO years ago at LARS a so-so pieced together body-only went 20K, quickly. Last years LARS I sold my fenderless one for...well that would be bragging. A complete unrestored that isnt rotted out could easily fetch 60-up. If it still has paint and mohair in it and '32 drivetrain youll get close to six digits.
This 5-window sold for $12k on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6057&item=4514197210&rd=1
Opportunities do exist, however. A guy I know bought a nice, finished, 3W street rod about 2 years ago for $22K. He did say that he could have doubled his money overnight, and that's likely true. Be patient, and negotiate with a level head.
Speculative question: Are current crazy prices on '32's and every other related chunk of traditional rod stuff likely to hold, or are we just in a bubble that will collapse when speculators go elsewhere and leave the hardware to us really deranged hardcore rodders? I see arguments in both directions--other car bubbles of recent times have burst, leaving MOST of the cars back at levels that many enthusiasts could at least aspire to; Witness the absurdly inflated tri-carb Vettes and such of a few years ago. On the other hand, the most sought-after '32 types have been rare for longer than most of us have lived--the early classifieds in HRM circa 1950 are full of ads seeking three windows and roadsters. '32's quit following the normal depreciation to scrap value cycle certainly by the late 1940's, and have been going up steadily ever since. I've been chasing '32 stuff since the early sixties, and it has always been scarce, pricier than other old stuff, and appreciating a good deal faster than my income. Is the hard-core deuce nut market big enough to keep prices insane even if the auction types go away??
kid i know just bought a restored 28 coupe not pro restore but nice job owner ran it on sundays and kid paid 6K drove it home and stripped it to body & frame & sold all unwanted parts for like 2K so theres 4K for a nice not rusty body frame & susp & was one in paper couple monthes back a 32 3 window 90% restored for like 12K had me thinking the owner was nuts but guess prices are nuts in most places
[ QUOTE ] kid i know just bought a restored 28 coupe not pro restore but nice job owner ran it on sundays and kid paid 6K drove it home and stripped it to body & frame & sold all unwanted parts for like 2K so theres 4K for a nice not rusty body frame & susp & was one in paper couple monthes back a 32 3 window 90% restored for like 12K had me thinking the owner was nuts but guess prices are nuts in most places [/ QUOTE ] Model A prices are irrelevant to this discussion. $12k for an almost done deuce 3 window? That's nuts all right. Why didn't the guy just put an ad in the paper that it was FREE!!
good question Bruce, personally i hope the traditional craze dies out a bit but i do not have the foresight to see what the next big thing could be... on the flipside i hope it stays popular because for the aspiring hotrod builder it would seem this is a prime opportunity to get ones feet wet. additionally, i believe popularity pushes the aftermarket companies to start repoping more obscure items. will '32 coupes ever become *affordable*? IMO - probably not, unless that elusive "Deal of the Century" comes along. if a person really needed to have a 32, common sense says to save those pennies until one could be found with the proper hard to find bits... in the long run a person could be waiting for some time for more deals to roll around. as you pointed out the '32 has always been a desireable year for the hotrod. (but id rather have a 33-34 for that kinda money )
There was an old channeled '32 3 Window at Hershey this year, last time I walked by it was down to 16k or 17k and was a long way from being a safe ride.
[ QUOTE ] Speculative question: Are current crazy prices on '32's and every other related chunk of traditional rod stuff likely to hold, or are we just in a bubble that will collapse when speculators go elsewhere and leave the hardware to us really deranged hardcore rodders? [/ QUOTE ] I dont really have a answer for your question but I do think that the speculators are bad news... They dont really care if they make their money with Real Estate, Vintage Cars or Hot Rods and it seems to me that they leave a wake of distruction where ever they go. When Vintage Car prices went crazy ( must have been the late 80s early 90s ), I talked to a guy that had just bought and crashed a vintage race car with known history, he pulled the engine and gearbox , sold those and made a profit. He was proud of it too, and all I could think about was the car that was lost forever... When the market colapsed some cars misteriously dissapeared so the owners could collect the insurance money ( I read in a magazine some guy in England got caught, after he cut up a couple of Vintage Italian Race Cars ) And a lot of specialists lost their buisinesses when the prices went up and when they went down because they did not react right to the changing market... But I can see why somebody would rather own a Deuce Coupe than Enron Stock...
Savin' up your pennys ain't gonna get you any deuce because they are going up faster than you can save. I think there will always be a demand for 32 fords,,, Look how the HAMB has grown in the last year,,,some day a few of the newbies are gonna say ,,,,I want one,,,and as long as there is a demand,,,,the price will rise. Heck,even the rusty 4 door parts cars are bringing big bucks now!HRP
was thinking about what the next big thing in hotrodding will be -post the Traditional thing that is blowing up now...and realised that whatever it is, WE will actually be the initiators of it,That is ,the seed of it will originate right here on the Hamb.I mean ,if everyone on here got all jumped up about something that is currently dormant...god knows what that could be, the ripples out from this 'pond' would be felt across the rodding community. So if that holds true and we all poo pooed 32 3W's would we see a dip in prices??? well its worth a go!! i hate 32 3W's !! they suck!!
I'm not a promoter, I'm hoping the world in general will swing back to off-peach '48 Chevies with torn graphics and leave the deuce stuff for us!
[ QUOTE ] Yes, the word is the B-Ville price will start with a 2. TWO years ago at LARS a so-so pieced together body-only went 20K, quickly. [/ QUOTE ] HOLY MONKEY! I had no idea the new Brookville 3Ws will be so expensive. I just checked their website and $20,000 is the base price and doesn't include firewall, cowl vent, dash, etc. My earlier guess was based on the Model A stuff.
[ QUOTE ] I may have a chance to buy a 32 3 window and i was wondering what a bone stock unrestored and in fair condition one would cost give or take [/ QUOTE ] HEY,,,You ain't bought it yet? HRP
It is STUPID............... Boxes of cash will not do it ...for most of these jerks..... I sold the 40, sold the stage III TCI frame that I had for it, sold a big, fast aluminum headed Rat motor (650 hp or better).......and a bunch of parts and pieces.....and it ain't enough..... <font color="red"> But my wife is being REAL NICE to me.... </font> .
My buddy had just sold a heavily (bitchen) chopped 32 3 window body only (dash and rear window garnish and left window garnish and w/s frame included) for 12,500(herd it went to cali),i was trying to buy the thing but jsut couldnt come up with the ching, he had only bought it about 1 year earlier for 10 grand, every one around here was complaining about how much he paid and sold it for, but i would have been very happy buying it for that!!
Well this one is not original but it's a real world example that I found on racingjunk.com recently. 35K Here is the guys website: 32 3W For sale Personally, I prefer the 5W's
this thread has got me seeing $ signs that could go to getting my deuce roadster on the road again. i got a basket case 3w that i should tack together as a roller and sell or trade it.
I gotta wonder why the 32' 3 winder that was at Hershey was for sale for only (only?!?) 17K. Seeing that kinda gave me hope...its when people talk 35K-45K that I start to think its impossible goal. Johnny
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