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289/302's in Model A's or T's

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Slimegreeeeeen, May 16, 2010.

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USing a 289/302 in a model A or T

Poll closed May 23, 2010.
  1. Don't do it, dude. Those are weenie engines.

    12.3%
  2. That'd be righteous with the right parts, bro.

    87.7%
  1. Slimegreeeeeen
    Joined: Jul 1, 2006
    Posts: 1,241

    Slimegreeeeeen
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    Okay, I've seen some, but not a lot of small block Fords in model A's. I'd like to see some pics and hear some opinions. The more I look at the sixties hipo pieces, the cooler I think they look with finned aluminum valve covers and
    Shelby pieces. Plus the dizzy at the front seems to make for better firewall clearance. I'm contemplating a period mid-sixties Ford in either my 29A or my 26T coupe. Please weigh in.
     
  2. Kamp
    Joined: May 27, 2006
    Posts: 360

    Kamp
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    from Peoria, IL

    I've got a '65 289 in my '31 Model A coupe. I tried to keep consistant with a mid sixties build... not a wild show car style, but something you could have seem running around. The Ford engine is a bit longer than an SBC, but fits pretty well, all in all. Parts are readily available, and you can make about as much power as you want to, while keeping the external look virtually identical. You can also bolt a T5 or AOD directly to it, adding overdrive.

    As far as pics......
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  3. Mark H
    Joined: May 18, 2009
    Posts: 1,461

    Mark H
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    from Scotland

    Go for it,great engines.
    I'm building my '29 RPU with a '65 289 and T10 4-speed.
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    Cheers,
    Mark.
     
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  4. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
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    Deuces

    I think the 302 is a torquey little brute... With the right heads/cam and about 9.5:1 compression ratio should work fine. A T-5 trans from a '90-'93 HO Stang with it's 3:35 first gear ratio should get it moving very quick... A rear gear ratio like a 3:55 0r 3:73 should be enough for street use.
     
  5. HotRod33
    Joined: Oct 5, 2008
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    I have a 289 with a tunnel ram in my 33 pickup and it runs great..... I am putting a 302 in the model a sedan that I am building.......
     
  6. solid
    Joined: May 20, 2007
    Posts: 1,459

    solid
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    289/302's RUN REAL GOOD, AND CAN LOOK RIGHT...ONE WOULD LOOK RIGHT AT HOME IN A 60's STYLE A OR T WITH SLOT MAGS, OR AMERICANS AND A FAT *** FLAKE JOB.
     
  7. brad chevy
    Joined: Nov 22, 2009
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    I just traded for a 22 t-bucket with a 302 and it fast and plenty of power.mine is out of a 69 MUSTANG
     
  8. Slimegreeeeeen
    Joined: Jul 1, 2006
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    Very nice! Thanks for weighing in. I like your coupe.

     
  9. Slimegreeeeeen
    Joined: Jul 1, 2006
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    Slimegreeeeeen
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    Now this is the kind of response that can get a plan going. A T-5 would be slick. And thanks for noting that first gear ratio and rear end gears. I love the HAMB.

     
  10. toxictom
    Joined: Jan 14, 2008
    Posts: 366

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    do it...
     

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  11. Hrtr id s 302 in my A
     

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  12. 58ducknut
    Joined: Feb 18, 2010
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    58ducknut
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    from ohio

    Nice looking motors! I have a 33 five window I want to put a 302 and a T5 in.What are you guys doing for water pumps? Using the short or the long pumps?
     

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  13. I'm not even a Ford guy, and I say DO IT! I have much respect for them, and it's nice to see 'em in a rod instead of a SBC.
     
  14. I have a 289 and top-loader 4spd. in my '32 roadster. Great little engine and quite light too. Lighter than a flathead.
     
  15. tedley
    Joined: Nov 8, 2009
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    tedley
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    from canada

    Got a little one in my 28rpu w/c-4. i think the later water pump is shorter than the earlier ones since the length of sbf are a issue.
     

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  16. SinisterCustom
    Joined: Feb 18, 2004
    Posts: 8,277

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    The problem with OHV Ford engines is that the front of the engines are considerably longer measured from the front of valve cover than the rear...
    Even though you can shove the engine up against the firewall due to no dizzy back there...that is part of the issue. The PROPORTIONS get all outta whack with a SBF, tough to get the valve covers centered between firewall and grill shell and look good in an open hooded hotrod....
    They are a great running engine, but it'll take more than just dress-up parts to make one look "right" in a hotrod......
     
  17. Slimegreeeeeen
    Joined: Jul 1, 2006
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    Slimegreeeeeen
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    Good point. And one certainly worth considering...

     
  18. retiredfireguy
    Joined: Oct 18, 2009
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    retiredfireguy
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    Had a 302 HO with a C4 trans in a Model A tudor sedan. Lost interest and sold it to finance the T roadster that I'm working on now. Went with the cookie-cutter SBC this time, mostly for financial reasons.
     
  19. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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    FORD in a FORD, INDY Lotus-Ford, Le Mans GT40 FORD, the 60's were the highpount of Ford racing.
     
  20. The 90's explorer 5.0 front is the shortest there is. The front cover doesn't have a fuel pump provision. The water pump is reverse rotation. It also has a 50 oz. balancer. I used a professional Products 28oz. unit and had to machine a spacer to put the pulley in the correct location.
     
  21. 5wcoupehunter
    Joined: Oct 20, 2007
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    5wcoupehunter
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    from FLORIDA

    ford power I love it.
     

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  22. Slimegreeeeeen
    Joined: Jul 1, 2006
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    Yeoooozah, gadzooks and mazoomba, man! Someone ain't f@#&*!g around...

     
  23. THR1LL3R
    Joined: Feb 4, 2007
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    THR1LL3R
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    from St. Louis

    Ha love this thread!
     
  24. Slimegreeeeeen
    Joined: Jul 1, 2006
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    Slimegreeeeeen
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    I'm actually quite impressed by the Ford faction on here. MAybe I'll have to use the 302 I just picked up and hook it to a 90-93 t-5 with the 3.35 1st as recommended earlier in this thread. Yessss!
     
  25. rallisracing
    Joined: Nov 3, 2008
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    rallisracing

    In my 27T ..
     

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  26. Slimegreeeeeen
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    Sweeeet!

     
  27. dirtbag13
    Joined: Jun 16, 2008
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    this ones going into my 29 model a roadster pickup ! should be coming home from paint in the next couple weeks and i'll post pics with it installed ! i'm a die hard ford man and wouldn't consider anything else ! yeah there's a little more work and a few more considerations ! firewall on the cab is recsessed and i had ot run a sno white shorty conversion waterpump but other than that it wasn't too bad !
     

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  28. Kamp
    Joined: May 27, 2006
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    Kamp
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    from Peoria, IL

    Well, I guess part of this is fact and part is opinion. The front IS longer than a SBC - that is true.
    Personally, I like the engine setback. Mine is so far back that the valve covers set under the recess in the firewall. Not only does it help with weight balance, I feel that it gives a more "racy" look - like the old drag cars of the 60's. If you open a "Hot Rod" from then, many of the fast cars had part of the injection and part of the exhaust run through the cowl. I dont think the valve covers need to be centered, but I see what you are getting at. To me, as long as there isn't "empty space" I think it looks fine.
     
  29. 29 bones
    Joined: Sep 26, 2006
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    29 bones
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    from so cal

    289 was just great in my lil roadster

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  30. Mat Thrasher
    Joined: Nov 5, 2007
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    I was thinking the same thing. I like the look of a motor setback. I think it does give the illusion of more setback without giving up interior room.
     

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