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Painting Question???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Lo-fi, May 23, 2010.

  1. Lo-fi
    Joined: May 7, 2010
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    I have a 63 Galaxie with original paint that needs paint and body work. I'm going to leave it all to the professionals as soon as I can save up the money (planning on getting it done later this year or early next year). The paint on my hood is literally flaking off in spots and the bare metal underneath is exposed and rusting everyday. It's definitely the worst looking part of the car that bothers me the most. I would like to try and give it an amateur Krylon paint job just to even out the color (black) and seal up the metal so it won't rust. My question is, should I sand the paint on the entire hood down to bare metal and prime it first? Or does it not really matter if it is down to bare metal or not? The paint seems like it will sand down pretty easily. Like I said, this is kind of just a temporary paint job until I can get it professionally done.
     
  2. pimpin paint
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    Hey,

    I'd treat the rust with a metal conditioner (phosphoric acid) feather edge the areas back a good 2'', and prime with a real metal primer.
    Rattle can anything isn't a good automotive paint product, and probably isn't worth the container its' sold in for stopping rust!

    " Spending a nation into generational debt is not an act of comp***ion "
     
  3. little skeet
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    I second it...what pimpin said!
     
  4. tudorkeith
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    while it's a pretty straight forward job, if you are gooing to have the car done professionally then get it to what ever point you are comfortable with. you start sanding, you may find more than you are ready to deal with
     
  5. duste01
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    Actually, exposed bare metal rust is really insignificant as compared to the lower regions of body panels that have moist debris that gets stuck in areas that dont get cleaned out and cause the rust through problems that call for panel patches. You can properly treat and prime as suggested, however primer attracts moisture as well. I realize it bugs you, but doing nothing is the same as what you are suggesting to do, but it will only look different for a while and then show the same problem again. You can properly prime it as well with the same result of it rusting again unless its painted. The problem that most people dont get is that unless you treat the metal like suggested, even painting will only keep it from rusting back for a while. If you treat it then if you paint it, it won't rust again. Its the only way to do it right.
     
  6. Lo-fi
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    Good info from people who probably have much more experience than me. My plan was to take the hood back down to bare metal, put a krylon gray primer coat on it, and then 2-3 coats of black gloss krylon. My rust is only surface rust that easily goes away even with light steel wool. I just want to keep it from coming back and make it look a bit better. Think I'll just wait and do nothing until I can get it professionally shot.
     
  7. carcrazyjohn
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    from trevose pa

    Dont use spray cans ,Automotive paint will lift the paint and instant mess.Take to a shop and have them coat it for you
     
  8. sik_kreations
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  9. claymore
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    I had some unknown bunch of kids throw brake fluid on mine and a bunch of neighbors cars and removed some of the paint on my hood. I sanded it all back to bare metal and used rattle can flat black just regular stuff Krylon if I remember correctly to cover up the whole hood using just the rattle cans no primer no sealer until I could get around to painting it properly.

    Got bored of the flat look and rattle caned the flat black with rattle can clear and it looked so good it took me two years to get the time and inclination to do it right

    But bottom line the rattle can job lasted just fine for two years, no rust, and looked good. Sanding off the rattle can paint was so much easier than the factory paint to spray it correctly and no problems with the real paint after using the rattle cans.

    Do it and you won't regret it if you don't like it just sand it off and try again.
     
  10. chopolds
    Joined: Oct 22, 2001
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    If it was my car, I'd leave it until it could be done correctly.
    #1. surface rust isn't going to get THAT much worse in a short amount of time.
    #2. by sanding more of the areas, you create MORE bare metal to rust, if you don't use a water resistant primer.
    #3. most important: by sanding and priming it, you will be hiding the damage. If your bodyman sees it, he might figure it's OK, and just go right over it, without stripping it down completely, treating the rust and finishing it. sometimes guys get lazy like that!
    #4. (minor point) some guys today, think rust is cool.
     
  11. 48cad
    Joined: May 13, 2007
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    It sounds as if your going to move forward and do something temporarily.

    1. make sure you properly neutralize the metal conditioner (phosphoric acid).

    2. most primers are not water proof, make sure to topcoat with some sort of paint.

    3. When you plan on re-doing hood correctly make sure and strip all rattle can **** off.
     

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