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A New HAMB Class to consider

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Beep, May 29, 2010.

  1. HAMB Nostalgia Jr. Fuel (must use at least 100% alky. Nitro ok up to 100%. No gasoline)

    Rules:
    1) FED cars only
    2) Maximum of 400 CI (no exceptions)
    3) Minumum wieght = 1600 lbs (no exceptions)
    4) Along with above, a weight to CI rule (to be determined)
    5) No superchargers of any kind
    6) Hemi heads, canted valves and semi hemi heads get weight penalty (to be determined)
    7) Cast iron blocks and heads only (aftermarket ok, if cast iron)
    8) Maximum tire size of 9" x 28"
    9) No automatic transmissions
    10) No electronics period. Not even for monitoring. Learn to listen and learn to drive.
    11) Safety rules also (to be determined)
     
  2. Irrational Metalworks
    Joined: Feb 5, 2007
    Posts: 589

    Irrational Metalworks
    Alliance Vendor
    from DFW

    Great idea! I am about to start building one anyway. What are you thinking ch***is wise? SFI rules or old style ch***is?
     
  3. crackerass54
    Joined: Jun 1, 2009
    Posts: 364

    crackerass54
    Member
    from dallas

    #5 says no superchargers. Does that mean NO forced induction? Or just superchargers
     
  4. Old "style" front engine ch***is, but current safety standards (no exhaust tubing ch***is, etc) specs tbd later

    No forced induction of any kind

    add rule 12) wheel base limited to no more than 120 inches
     
  5. Greezy
    Joined: May 11, 2002
    Posts: 1,440

    Greezy
    Member

    You got my interest. Any more thoughts? 3 point cages ok?
     
  6. Revhead
    Joined: Mar 19, 2001
    Posts: 3,027

    Revhead
    Member
    from Dallas, TX

    single engine?
     
  7. Junior Stock
    Joined: Aug 24, 2004
    Posts: 1,951

    Junior Stock

    Rule#13 No wheelie bars. :D
    9 inch tires and short wheel base would make this fun.

    Tim
     
  8. troylee
    Joined: Jul 10, 2007
    Posts: 689

    troylee
    Member

    I been watching the Southwest jr fuel guys, they have a good car count. I am hope it takes off around here. Last year at the Norwalk Good Guys show there was a few running. Anyways Im in.
     
  9. Kerry
    Joined: May 16, 2001
    Posts: 5,155

    Kerry
    Member

    BTTT.

    Sounds interesting but I'm out. Not gonna give up my 671 and Hilborn four port. :) That and I'm a tad over 120".
     
  10. I dig the Jr. Fuel concept, and allowing Nitro would be cool.
    I'd put the wheelbase at 150" max, to allow for some different appearing cars.
    which engines are you calling "semi hemi"?
    I also really dig the "no autos"
     
  11. I'm watching... with interest. ;)

    I think by semi hemi he means porcupine valves-IE Big Block Chevy's.

    JK
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2010
  12. You say at least 100%. How can you have more than 100%?
     
  13. Anderson
    Joined: Jan 27, 2003
    Posts: 7,560

    Anderson
    Member

    You will never get it done by disallowing automatics. I understand the nostalgic feeling you want but you will have a lot more interest and cars when you let people with powerglides play.
     
  14. dakota tom
    Joined: Jun 22, 2008
    Posts: 23

    dakota tom
    Member
    from dakotas

    So Crowerglide and lenco then?
     
  15. Sounds like the digger I am slowly gathering parts for.
     
  16. DaveyJonez
    Joined: Feb 20, 2006
    Posts: 533

    DaveyJonez
    Member
    from Houston

    I think the Southwest Jr Fuel rules, except allow nitro. If no 'glides, direct drive only. Cars need to be allowed at least 180" to go fast safely. (low 7's- no interest in running 8's. Yawn...)

    The most important limiting factor would be fuel pump and magneto.

    I have been waiting for a cl*** like this for a long time. If there is enough interest in Texas, I would be glad to help organize and I could probably bring some event sponsorship.

    Dave Bloching
     
  17. Royalshifter
    Joined: May 29, 2005
    Posts: 15,984

    Royalshifter
    Moderator
    from California

    This is gonna be good.:D

     
  18. Notice I said SLOOOOWLY:eek: Main parts needed still, coupler, axles,wheels/tires, induction:cool:
     
  19. Royalshifter
    Joined: May 29, 2005
    Posts: 15,984

    Royalshifter
    Moderator
    from California

    Inductions are cool.......just scored this jewel.


    [​IMG]
     
  20. alterbob
    Joined: Nov 10, 2009
    Posts: 112

    alterbob
    Member
    from Butler,Pa.

    I agree you should allow Automatics, if you want a car count. I agree with with Iron block, but should allow aluminum heads, for repair and affordability. Good Luck
     
  21. zman
    Joined: Apr 2, 2001
    Posts: 16,790

    zman
    Member
    from Garner, NC

    They should have to look nostalgic as well... all the other rules I agree with. I toy with the idea of building something like this from time to time.
     
  22. Anderson
    Joined: Jan 27, 2003
    Posts: 7,560

    Anderson
    Member

    The official rules for the SWJRFA...

     
  23. HOLLYWQQD
    Joined: Apr 23, 2006
    Posts: 722

    HOLLYWQQD
    Member
    from central NY

    BTTT and...........................................................................................................................wow i just gave up after reading the rules . not that they are bad , just a lot of em!! i am building a chopped and chanelled 27 T coupe with about a 106" wheelbase(frame not done yet) naturally aspirated 337 ci." SBC with 8 strombergs on top of a tunnel ram , the motor has 12.5 : 1 comp.pistons ,big cam , old 2 hump iron heads it makes decent power and will be driven through a super T 10 4 spd .trans , blah blah blah! i'm gonna have 2 seats, harnesses, minimal cage,magnesium wheels with 10.00 radir cheaters out back and spindle mount mag fronts. i am not opposed to disc rear brakes but will have no fronts , rear mount radiator , narrowed 9" rear , etc.etc.etc. when i first saw this post i was all excited that there may be a cl*** i could actually compete in and enjoy and still be able to hang a liscence plate and a couple lights on the car and drive it to the local cruises a couple times a summer!! but as the number of rules go up the streetability of the cars becomes non existent . it looks like i'll have to run it at the nostalgia events only ,oh well they look like a lotta fun too!!
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2011
  24. hotroddon
    Joined: Sep 22, 2007
    Posts: 28,240

    hotroddon
    Member

    Well, this was a Front Engine Dragster cl*** that they were talking about anyway.
    Have to wonder since this was over a year ago if anything came of the idea?
     
  25. HOLLYWQQD
    Joined: Apr 23, 2006
    Posts: 722

    HOLLYWQQD
    Member
    from central NY

    yeah i guess i overlooked that front engine DRAGSTER part ! i wonder if anything came of it as well !
     
  26. Nothing has come of yet, but it isn't forgotten. As to ******'s
    1) No automatics,,,period.
    2) If it has a ******, mechanical driver shifted only.
    3) Wheel base = minimum = 80" & maximum = 150". learn to drive.
    4) carbs, no more than 8, no less than 1.
    5) no batteries on board. if starter mounted, use a portable. I'm gonna push start myself
    6) no qualifying, you pay, you run
     
  27. oj
    Joined: Jul 27, 2008
    Posts: 6,589

    oj
    Member

    You might consider to allow .030 overbore for the sbc 400, maybe a 410"max, if you don't you will eliminate all the gm production blocks and force guys to ponyup for aftermarket. I've never known this type of race to be won or lost by a few cubic inches.
    No injection? Alcohol carbs are dangerous, if the linkage gets stuck under power you cannot shut the engine off - you can toss the ignition out of the car and with alcohol it will continue to run. All you can do is shut the fuel off and let it run until the carbs empty - and you can cover a lot of distance, believe me.
     
  28. madmak95
    Joined: May 12, 2005
    Posts: 779

    madmak95
    Member

    A few of us have been kicking an ideal like this around for a while. Build a few for fun heads up match raceing. But we where gona run on race gas to keep the cost down and time slower than 10 seconds. Whole different game when u break 9.99.
     

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