Turning Back The Clock: Speedometer Resetting

I was out surfing the HAMB classifieds and found a car that had had the original odometer set back to 0.




That got me to thinking that on many older cars where mileage doesn't matter, I supposed that yes, you could do it! I found a company (one of many) that work on vintage speedos: http://www.speedometersolutions.com/

Is this legal everywhere? What's more, is it moral?

What do you guys think? Has anybody done it/had it done? Obviously it can't be THAT hard - less scrupulous dealers used to do it back in the day all the time!

Better yet, can somebody post some tech on how to do this?

Not sure what I think of this yet, but it would probably make me feel pretty good knowing that every mile on the odometer of the car I just gave a new lease on life to was put there by me!

~Jason

 

Here's tech on an older Porsche speedo - not sure how different it is from 50's/60's Americana: http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Mult_gauge_repair/mult_gauge_repair.htm

~Jason

 

not sure about all states, but here in Oklahoma, after ten years all odometer readings on title work are simply listed as "EXEMPT". So I would not have a problem doing it on something super old. Now trying to do it on a 1998 honda might be a different story, since you would be acused of trying to falsify the mileage.

 

Like with this?

And although not HAMB-Friendly, here's an interesting little gadget that lets you set your electronic odometer to whatever you want it to (is this shit even LEGAL?):



Link:
http://www.bikudo.com/product_search/details/20745/odometer_adjusting_tool.html#desc

This stuff is something I'd always kinda figured existed, but had never really looked up until today. It's kind of like when you first get a CB, and drive past a truck stop for the first time with it on - there's this whole world you never knew existed, right in front of you the whole time.

~Jason

 

Many states have an odometer accuracy statement on their titles. I think that as long as it's correctly filled out at sale you can do whatever you want with the odometer reading.

 

I'm almost positive I have a car that has been rolled back. It has the digital odometer. Struts should not be worn out with 45K miles on them.

 

WTF, man!

Was a set of train tracks in the middle of the highway on the previous owner's daily commute?

Maybe he got a lot of "action" in the car...

~Jason

 

I know a guy that does it to EVERY car he owns....

he is a multi- millionare and just gets off on doing stupid shady stuff.

He has a guy from jersey come once a year and roll back his cars.

Mostly late model gmc trucks....

guy goes by "slippery Steve"

 

LOL!

Does he have a collection of these, too?



~Jason

 

I reset the 55 Desoto speedo/odometer I'm using for my coupe to 0. It was easy to do if you pay close attention to how everything comes apart and don't "force" anything apart or together. I didn't feel guilty on doing that one either!

 

The Legality/Morality of it is only an issue if you are trying to sell it for more because it has only so many original miles. For me, once it becomes a "hot rod" the milage becomes invalid anyway.

And as someone already said, If you've reset the odometer, just make sure to fill out the paperwork saying that the odometer is not accurate.

 

This is true, otherwise you could be charged with a Federal felony.


Here are the Federal regulations-


FEDERAL ODOMETER REGULATIONS
49 CFR 580. 814-824 (volume 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations)
This part prescribes rules requiring transferors and lessees of motor vehicles to make written disclosure to transferees and lessors respectively, concerning the odometer mileage and its accuracy as directed by sections 408 (a) and (e) of the Motor Vehicle Information and Cost Savings Act as amended, 15 U.S.C. 1988 (a) and (e). In addition, this part prescribes the rules requiring the retention of odometer disclosure statements by motor vehicle dealers, distributors and lessors and the retention of certain other information by auction companies as directed by sections 408(g) and 414 of the Motor Vehicle Information and Cost Savings Act as amended, 15 U.S.C. 1990(d) and 1988(g).
Sec. 580.2 Purpose. The purpose of this part is to provide purchasers of motor vehicles with odometer information to assist them in determining a vehicle's condition and value by making the disclosure of a vehicle's mileage a condition of title and by requiring lessees to disclose to their lessors the vehicle's mileage at the time the lessors transfer the vehicle. In addition, the purpose of this part is to preserve records that are needed for the proper investigation of possible violations of the Motor Vehicle Information and Cost Savings Act and any subsequent prosecutorial, adjudicative or other action.
Sec. 580.3 Definitions. All terms defined in sections 2 and 402 of the Motor Vehicle Information and Cost Savings Act are used in their statutory meaning. Other terms used in this part are defined as follows: Lessee means any person, or the agent for any person, to whom a motor vehicle has been leased for a term of at least 4 months. Lessor means any person, or the agent for any person, who has leased 5 or more motor vehicles in the past 12 months. Mileage means actual distance that a vehicle has traveled. Original power of attorney means, for single copy forms, the document set forth by secure process which is issued by the State, and, for multicopy forms, any and all copies set forth by secure process which are issued by the State. Secure printing process or other secure process means any process which deters and detects counterfeiting and/or unauthorized reproduction and allows alterations to be visible to the naked eye.
Transferee means any person to whom ownership of a motor vehicle is transferred, by purchase, gift, or any means other than by the creation of a security interest, and any person who, as agent, signs an odometer disclosure statement for the transferee.
Transferor means any person who transfers his ownership of a motor vehicle by sale, gift, or any means other than by the creation of a security interest, and any person who, as agent, signs an odometer disclosure statement for the transferor. Security of title documents and power of attorney forms. Each title shall be set forth by means of a secure printing process or other secure process. In addition, power of attorney forms issued pursuant to Secs. 580.13 and 580.14 and documents which are used to reassign the title shall be issued by the State and shall be set forth by a secure process. [54 FR 35887, Aug. 30, 1989]
Sec. 580.5 Disclosure of odometer information. (a) Each title, at the time it is issued to the transferee, must contain the mileage disclosed by the transferor when ownership of the vehicle was transferred and contain a space for the information required to be disclosed under paragraphs (c), (d), (e) and (f) of this section at the time of future transfer. (b) Any documents which are used to reassign a title shall contain a space for the information required to be disclosed under paragraphs (c), (d), (e) and (f) of this section at the time of transfer of ownership. (c) In connection with the transfer of ownership of a motor vehicle, each transferor shall disclose the mileage to the transferee in writing on the title or, except as noted below, on the document being used to reassign the title. In the case of a transferor in whose name the vehicle is titled, the transferor shall disclose the mileage on the title, and not on a reassignment document. This written disclosure must be signed by the transferor, including the printed name. In connection with the transfer of ownership of a motor vehicle in which more than one person is a transferor, only one transferor need sign the written disclosure.
In addition to the signature and printed name of the transferor, the written disclosure must contain the following information: (1) The odometer reading at the time of transfer (not to include tenths of miles); (2) The date of transfer; (3) The transferor's name and current address; (4) The transferee's name and current address; and (5) The identity of the vehicle, including its make, model, year, and body type, and its vehicle identification number. (d) In addition to the information provided under paragraph (c) of this section, the statement shall refer to the Federal law and shall state that failure to complete or providing false information may result in fines and/or imprisonment. Reference may also be made to applicable State law. (e) In addition to the information provided under paragraphs (c) and (d) of this section, (1) The transferor shall certify that to the best of his knowledge the odometer reading reflects the actual mileage, or; (2) If the transferor knows that the odometer reading reflects the amount of mileage in excess of the designed mechanical odometer limit, he shall include a statement to that effect; or (3) If the transferor knows that the odometer reading differs from the mileage and that the difference is greater than that caused by odometer calibration error, he shall include a statement that the odometer reading does not reflect the actual mileage, and should not be relied upon. This statement shall also include a warning notice to alert the transferee that a discrepancy exists between the odometer reading and the actual mileage. (f) The transferee shall sign the disclosure statement, print his name, and return a copy to his transferor. (g) If the vehicle has not been titled or if the title does not contain a space for the information required, the written disclosure shall be executed as a separate document. (h) No person shall sign an odometer disclosure statement as both the transferor and transferee in the same transaction, unless permitted by Secs. 580.13 or 580.14. [53 FR 29476, Aug. 5, 1988, as amended at 54 FR 35887, Aug. 30, 1989; 56 FR 47686, Sept. 20, 1991]
Sec. 580.7 Disclosure of odometer information for leased motor vehicles. (a) Before executing any transfer of ownership document, each lessor of a leased motor vehicle shall notify the lessee in writing that the lessee is required to provide a written disclosure to the lessor regarding the mileage. This notice shall contain a reference to the federal law and shall state that failure to complete or providing false information may result in fines and/or [[Page 817]] imprisonment. Reference may also be made to applicable State law. (b) In connection with the transfer of ownership of the leased motor vehicle, the lessee shall furnish to the lessor a written statement regarding the mileage of the vehicle. This statement must be signed by the lessee and, in addition to the information required by paragraph (a) of this section, shall contain the following information: (1) The printed name of the person making the disclosure; (2) The current odometer reading (not to include tenths of miles); (3) The date of the statement; (4) The lessee's name and current address; (5) The lessor's name and current address; (6) The identity of the vehicle, including its make, model, year, and body type, and its vehicle identification number; (7) The date that the lessor notified the lessee of disclosure requirements; (8) The date that the completed disclosure statement was received by the lessor; and (9) The signature of the lessor. (c) In addition to the information provided under paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section, (1) The lessee shall certify that to the best of his knowledge the odometer reading reflects the actual mileage; or (2) If the lessee knows that the odometer reading reflects the amount of mileage in excess of the designed mechanical odometer limit, he shall include a statement to that effect; or (3) If the lessee knows that the odometer reading differs from the mileage and that the difference is greater than that caused by odometer calibration error, he shall include a statement that the odometer reading is not the actual mileage and should not be relied upon. (d) If the lessor transfers the leased vehicle without obtaining possession of it, the lessor may indicate on the title the mileage disclosed by the lessee under paragraph (b) and (c) of this section, unless the lessor has reason to believe that the disclosure by the lessee does not reflect the actual mileage of the vehicle. Sec. 580.8 Odometer disclosure statement retention. (a) Dealers and distributors of motor vehicles who are required by this part to execute an odometer disclosure statement shall retain for five years a photostat, carbon or other facsimile copy of each odometer mileage statement which they issue and receive. They shall retain all odometer disclosure statements at their primary place of business in an order that is appropriate to business requirements and that permits systematic retrieval. (b) Lessors shall retain, for five years following the date they transfer ownership of the leased vehicle, each odometer disclosure statement which they receive from a lessee. They shall retain all odometer disclosure statements at their primary place of business in an order that is appropriate to business requirements and that permits systematic retrieval. (c) Dealers and distributors of motor vehicles who are granted a power of attorney by their transferor pursuant to Sec. 580.13, or by their transferee pursuant to Sec. 580.14, shall retain for five years a photostat, carbon, or other facsimile copy of each power of attorney that they receive. They shall retain all powers of attorney at their primary place of business in an order that is appropriate to business requirements and that permits systematic retrieval.
Sec. 580.9 Odometer record retention for auction companies. Each auction company shall establish and retain at its primary place of business in an order that is appropriate to business requirements and that permits systematic retrieval, for five years following the date of sale of each motor vehicle, the following records: (a) The name of the most recent owner (other than the auction company); (b) The name of the buyer; (c) The vehicle identification number; and (d) The odometer reading on the date which the auction company took possession of the motor vehicle. [[Page 818]]
Sec. 580.13 Disclosure of odometer information by power of attorney. (a) If the transferor's title is physically held by a lienholder, or if the transferor to whom the title was issued by the State has lost his title and the transferee obtains a duplicate title on behalf of the transferor, and if otherwise permitted by State law, the transferor may give a power of attorney to his transferee for the purpose of mileage disclosure. The power of attorney shall be on a form issued by the State to the transferee that is set forth by means of a secure printing process or other secure process, and shall contain, in part A, a space for the information required to be disclosed under paragraphs (b), (c), (d), and (e) of this section. If a State permits the use of a power of attorney in the situation described in
Sec. 580.14(a), the form must also contain, in part B, a space for the information required to be disclosed under Sec. 580.14, and, in part C, a space for the certification required to be made under Sec. 580.15. (b) In connection with the transfer of ownership of a motor vehicle, each transferor to whom a title was issued by the State whose title is physically held by a lienholder or whose title has been lost, and who elects to give his transferee a power of attorney for the purpose of mileage disclosure, must appoint the transferee his attorney-in-fact for the purpose of mileage disclosure and disclose the mileage on the power of attorney form issued by the State. This written disclosure must be signed by the transferor, including the printed name, and contain the following information: (1) The odometer reading at the time of transfer (not to include tenths of miles); (2) The date of transfer; (3) The transferor's name and current address; (4) The transferee's name and current address; and (5) The identity of the vehicle, including its make, model year, body type and vehicle identification number. (c) In addition to the information provided under paragraph (b) of this section, the power of attorney form shall refer to the Federal odometer law and state that providing false information or the failure of the person granted the power of attorney to submit the form to the State may result in fines and/or imprisonment. Reference may also be made to applicable State law. (d) In addition to the information provided under paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section: (1) The transferor shall certify that to the best of his knowledge the odometer reading reflects the actual mileage; or (2) If the transferor knows that the odometer reading reflects mileage in excess of the designed mechanical odometer limit, he shall include a statement to that effect; or (3) If the transferor knows that the odometer reading differs from the mileage and the difference is greater than that caused by a calibration error, he shall include a statement that the odometer reading does not reflect the actual mileage and should not be relied upon. (f) Hologram--a defraction foil substrate, produced from a negative which was made by splitting a laser beam into two separate beams to produce a three dimensional effect. (g) Security Paper--paper containing a security watermark and/or a security thread. 2. Methods to allow alterations to be visible to the naked eye. (a) Erasure Sensitive Background Inks--a process whereby the text is printed in a dark color ink over a fine line erasure-sensitive prismatic ink tint. (b) Security Lamination--retro-reflective security laminate is placed over vital information after it has been entered to allow for detection of attempts to alter this information. (c) Security Paper--paper which has been chemically treated to detect chemical alterations. [[Page 822]] Appendix B to Part 580--Disclosure Form for Title Odometer Disclosure Statement Federal law (and State law, if applicable) requires that you state the mileage in connection with the transfer of ownership. Failure to complete or providing a false statement may result in fines and/or imprisonment. I state that the odometer now reads ______ (no tenths) miles and to the best of my knowledge that it reflects the actual mileage of the vehicle described herein, unless one of the following statements is checked. --(1) I hereby certify that to the best of my knowledge the odometer reading reflects the amount of mileage in excess of its mechanical limits. --(2) I hereby certify that the odometer reading is NOT the actual mileage. WARNING--ODOMETER DISCREPANCY. _______________________________________________________________________ (Transferor's Signature) _______________________________________________________________________ (Transferee's Signature) _______________________________________________________________________ (Printed name) _______________________________________________________________________ (Printed name) Date of Statement_______________________________________________________ Transferee's Name_______________________________________________________ Transferee's Address____________________________________________________ (Street) _______________________________________________________________________ (City) (State) (ZIP Code) Appendix C to Part 580--Separate Disclosure Form Odometer Disclosure Statement Federal law (and State law, if applicable) requires that you state the mileage upon transfer of ownership. Failure to complete or providing a false statement may result in fines and/or imprisonment. I, ____________ (transferor's name, Print) state that the odometer now reads ________ (no tenths) miles and to the best of my knowledge that it reflects the actual mileage of the vehicle described below, unless one of the following statements is checked. --(1) I hereby certify that to the best of my knowledge the odometer reading reflects the amount of mileage in excess of its mechanical limits. --(2) I hereby certify that the odometer reading is NOT the actual mileage. WARNING--ODOMETER DISCREPANCY. Make____________________________________________________________________ Model___________________________________________________________________ Body Type_______________________________________________________________ Vehicle Identification Number___________________________________________ Year____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________ (Transferor's Signature) _______________________________________________________________________ (Printed name) Transferor's Address____________________________________________________ (Street) _______________________________________________________________________ (City) (State) (ZIP Code) Date of Statement_______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________ (Transferee's Signature) _______________________________________________________________________ (Printed name) Transferee's Name_______________________________________________________ Transferee's Address____________________________________________________ (Street) _______________________________________________________________________ (City) (State) (ZIP Code) Appendix D to Part 580--Disclosure Form for Leased Vehicle Odometer Disclosure Statement (Leased Vehicle) Federal law (and State law, if applicable) requires that the lessee disclose the mileage to the lessor in connection with the transfer of ownership. Failure to complete or making a false statement may result in fines and/or imprisonment. Complete disclosure form below and return to lessor. I,____________ (name of person making disclosure, Print) state that the odometer now reads ________ (no tenths) miles and to the best of my knowledge that it reflects the actual mileage of the vehicle described below, unless one of the following statements is checked. --(1) I hereby certify that to the best of my knowledge the odometer reading reflects the amount of mileage in excess of its mechanical limits. --(2) I hereby certify that the odometer reading is NOT the actual mileage.

 

What's the purpose of the odometer reading?

It should reflect the service life of the vehicle. Anything else is secondary.

Tampering voids that purpose. Resetting when restoring, new drive train, whatever, as already pointed out is a federal felony.

"Documented original miles" is a term that cannot ever be backed up with fact, therefore cannot be believed. It's a sad state when people rationalize justifying the act.

I doubt that there is a car with the speedometer reflecting "original mileage" in existence, especially if it was ever processed through a used car network, up to a certain point of course. Exceptions are 'grandpa's' car, because we all know he was an honest fellow!

Sometime in the sixtys? or seventies? I don't know when, the speedo's were fixed where they couldn't be turned backwards, but that didn't stop the creative. Then, used car specialists networked to trade the entire dash unit, where speedo's with lower mileage were traded, for a sum, for others that reflected a logical low mileage profile. Junk yards 'laundered' low mileage speedo's out of totalled cars.

Dealer's demo cars were driven for a while, sometimes for several months, (until the new "demos' came along), then a new speedometer was installed, and the car was driven for another few months and sold with "low miles" on it. The old speedo out of that car was bartered within the used car/junk yard community.

A lot of the perpetrators were caught and prosecuted. As it is with any crime, nobody knows the statistics, many got away with it. Most of us know of somebody that did the deed and never got caught. I knew a guy in about 1977 that ran a small mechanic shop and a gas station. One day a guy came in and complained that his speedo wasn't working, had a new one ordered and installed. He also made it clear that he wanted the old one back, un-molested. Then when that car came up for sale a couple of months later, my friend figured out the scam. The next time the same guy brought a car in for another new speedometer, of course the coincidence made his plan obvious, he was turned away.

What's going on at the present? I don't know, don't track that kind of stuff, just repeating what little I know of it. I do know that up until the mid '70s nobody ever took much stock in what the odometer said. It simply wasn't a measure of the condition of the car. Probably still isn't.

With onboard computers, I'm guessing that it's more difficult to cheat on the mileage, but I'm also confident that human ingenuity can find a way.

The bottom line is, in Colorado the Legislature has bowed to the scammers/crooks in a way, by simply stating on any ownership transfer that the mileage is not verifiable, some cop-out like that. It leaves it open for the crooks to cheat the unaware, legally!

 

I have a SW speedometer that I've owned since the '60s. The mechanism was all gummed up and internally a mess. I sent it to a speedo shop for a rebuild and asked them to set it to zero. This made sense to me because everything on the car was rebuilt. So in reality it's a new car and one way to keep track of road time was to start at zero. Merry Christmas, The FOGGER

 

I reset the speedo on my 68 vw it was quite easy to take the speedo apart and reset it

 

For 29Nash, I've got a 97 Dually with 46k original mileage............"Documented"!
There are a ton of early cars with original mileage. Have a friend in Vancouver, WA that has a 70 Boss 302 with 31k orgiinal miles.

I have set back a few, my 66 Mustang GT was set back to 0 after it was restored from the ground up. As long as it is documented....................My 31 Coupe will start with 0 miles although it is new from the ground up also.

IMHO

 

Here's a senario - buy a truck, drive it for years, then the speedo/odo unit breaks. Take it into a repair shop to fix it, and they replace it with a new one. Mom and Pop type shops don't have the nationwide setup to report its been changed, so it goes unnoticed until it is sold.

As somone already said, there are probably few older vehicles out there with correct 100% documented mileage. If you change the motor at one point, the transmission at another, the rear end at still yet another point and time, is the mileage on the vehicle still correct? Opinions will vary, but yours is the one that matters.

Personally, I'd set it to zero, but always remember the original setting.

Another thing, the old cars only went up to 99,999.9 miles. Then the rolled over to "0" and started over. How many times did the ODO on your car roll over and start at 0 again?

I also know that there is a series of later model Dodge trucks that if the ABS fuse in the small panel near the door jamb is blown, the speedo will work, the ABS light on the dash will light up, and the odometer will stop working.

Tampering with an odo is illegal. But is replacing one with another?

 

We noticed that all the odometers at the local U-Pull-It were smashed.
To deter using them into an higher mileage vehicle?

 

I leave the speedo at whatever reading it was when the title was transferred. It's pretty easy to reset an old style mechanical speedo to the correct mileage.

My 55 had an unreadable odometer when i got it, so I set the replacement to zero. The title was what they call "C" in Arizona....that means, the mileage shown may not represent actual mileage. A is actual mileage, B is when actual mileage exceeds the limits of the odometer (over 100k)

 

in WI all vehicles over ten years old are considered exempt from odometer reading disclosure. The problem is, when we find an obviously low mileage vehicle, the odometer reading CANNOT be recorded on the title for the next owner. Essentially, the documentation is lost. That makes it important to collect and retain all documents offered by the previous owner as a means to justify a low mileage claim.

With todays electronic technology, it is near impossible to tamper with an odometer. Many modern vehicles record mileage in the cpu. Even if the odometer is replaced, the record is stored and the new electronic odo will reflect the mileage on the vehicle. Even if an odometer can be replaced and the actual mileage is not displayed, the risk is great. Many dealers report mileage on vehicles when they are serviced or warranty/recall work is performed. This will all show up on a Carfax report.

29Nash offers some information that suggests widespread odometer tampering was commonplace in the used car business of decades ago. While I hope this is more myth than truth, I can attest that those days are ancient history.

Regarding setting an odo to zero, or replacing it with a new one: I feel this is very fair and is commonplace when a car is restored or the powertrain is rebuilt. It would be proper to record the information at the time and to pass that on the the next owner.

Let your conscience tell you what is honest and moral.

 

I purchased a used "sport" instrument cluster that was a rare factory option for my car. I wanted change the odo reading on my "new" speedo to match the original one I removed from my car so that the mileage would be correct. I needed to change it by about 20K miles to make it match but I didn't have any way to do it. I have heard about "putting a drill on it" but there was no practical way to do this and spinning it by hand would have taken months and ruined my hand. So it went in "as is."

 

When I worked in the dealership, we found some coming through that were innacurate. The paperwork from previous repairs and scan tool readings were higher than the mileage shown on subsequent visits. This automatically voided the warranty on the whole vehicle. A real mess for someone who had bought the vehicle used somewhere and innocently took it to the dealership for repairs.

When we put a new cluster in a car under shop repairs, the techs could reset the new odometer to the correct reading using the shop computer plugged into the car.

As a side note, we had a bunch of Cummins diesel pickups come in for warranty work where the owner tampered with the pump wiring (installing a high performance fuel box). Owners would hop the truck up, burn up the injection pump, then come in for warranty with the fuel box removed The tech could see where it had been installed and void the engine warranty for it. Once the owner figured out how much the new injector pump cost (out of their pocket due to voided warranty), a lot of them just traded the truck in on a new one, leaving the unknowing second owner with a truck and no warranty.

 

I would much rather record the mileage on the clock when the work was done, and leave the odometer alone!

yup

 

Very well spoken everyone.
On a restored automobile I still feel it's a moral issue and a legal issue.
The correct reading should follow along the life of the car. Of course in real life it doesn't and therefore titles have that box where the "True Mileage Unknown" should be checked if it's knowingly altered, disconnected or been around numerous times.
I know many people that were prosecuted by the law for odometer tampering.
They wouldn't do a repeat act today.
That law's got sharp teeth!

 

Roothawg..........If it's a late model Malibu, Camry or Focus and it's been used over rough roads I've seen struts and mounts go out in as little as 25,000 miles and sometimes less than that.
Miles have no bearing to today's strut suspensions.
Most all (except Honda's ) seem pretty lame to me.
Nothing better than old unequal length control arms and shock absorber systems. Hardly ever made a sound.
I'm employed by an imported car dealer and I've witnessed crappy strut system for decades.
This past winter I drove a new V6 Ca%$#y with only 4,000 miles on it.
On a cold day those struts sounded like someone banging on a tin drum.

You did well to get 45grand out of those things.

 

I replaced the cluster on my daily driver to get full instruments. I reset the new speedo to the then current mileage. I did the same on my '66 Corvair when I swapped in a Corsa gauge cluster.

When I built my roadster I reset the '64 Malibu speedo I used back to zero. I had no idea how many miles the roadster body shell had on it when it was thrown away!
The only time the mileage was checked was at state inspection time. The inspectors never said a word.

 

My speedometer resets to zero every time I come to a stop!

 

A lot of street rodders, including myself install a new speedometer when they get there wheels on the road that has zero milles on it. Which means we are not showing the true miles of the piece of crap we decided to put time and money in to make a nice street rod. So to me thats no different than turning the odometer back. I don't have any problem with it . But on the other hand , a well kept collector car should be left alone , just my two cents worth.

 

Post #24, spammer? Reported anyway. 2 year old thread and a first post? Come on!?

But, it is a good topic. What about my late model Ranger. 178K on the ticker but it is not the original engine. I think if I dug deep enough I could find the actual mileage on the engine. It has probably40K- 60K less than the truck does.

 

I have a 04 Chevy truck, when they recalled to gauge cluster I took it in with 114,000 miles and when I got it back it had 99,000 miles. That was from a chevy dealership last year