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Questions about this 327 I just bought..Expert motor guys needed...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by IRON MAIDEN, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. IRON MAIDEN
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    Heads are installed. Where are the #s at?
     
  2. Larry T
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    Under the valve cover.
     
  3. Deuces
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    Deuces

    Those are indeed a rare set of '60's angle plug heads.. I've seen a set years ago and they were an option on a '63-'65 327 Vette motor. Those heads alone are worth some $$$$$. :)
     
  4. IRON MAIDEN
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    Heads are 70 -1ish. Bought direct from dealership and installed on a 350 powered Corvette. He rebuilt them and installed them on this 327. I will post pics and #s tomorrow.
     
  5. Deuces
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    Deuces

  6. Deuces
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    Deuces

    I wonder if the '70-'71 LT-1 350's came out with those heads?? I need to do some reading...
     
  7. kgriff
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    Pop the valve cover off, there should be a seven didget(or so) #. the last three #'s are what the heads go by number wise (461,462,882,292,ect.). Doesn't really matter though. you have a pretty good set of Chevy heads. If that motor is as advertised (rebuilt) you did good for $1000. You could always easily change out the intake, cam, or even the heads later if you're not happy with the combo. The valve covers may have lost a little value with the polish, but they look good, keep'em. Good lookin' sbc.
     
  8. Larry T
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    They used the straight plug version of the 492 head. Angle plug were strictly "over the counter".
    Larry T
     
  9. 327 is a 327 who cares if it came out of a 'vette, it's not going in one. Not a 307 or a 305, the crank flange is definitly 327 sj and they were all steel. I don't care what anyone says if you have the paper work on the build it's worth $1000+++.

    Angle plugs did not come on "fuelie" engines but the are the same sort of chamber, guys just like to call them "fuelies" no big deal just as good. I'm not into chebbies but if you give me the guys addy I may go buy it, I have a friend that needs one for his pickup. ;)
     
  10. Deuces
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    Deuces

    Ok. Thanks Larry. :)
     
  11. IRON MAIDEN
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    Those pics were taken at my house. ; ) How easy is it to change the harmonic balancer?
     
  12. Raunchy
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    What McTim said.........I will take a 327 over a 350 any day. I grab everyone I can get my mits on. But they are becoming few and far between. I'm not much on that cam have never liked Fireballs all weird grinds I have a couple I pulled, cheapo Howards outperformed them all. You are joking about the Balancer thing?
     
  13. Deuces
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    Deuces

    Get a steering wheel puller set.
     
  14. claymore
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    I would Definitely get a detailed sales receipt with as much information as possible on the seller included on the receipt. The reason: DEFACED engine number. Not saying this guy did it but that is normally done to try and prevent a STOLEN PART from being identified.

    Unless you want to drive around with a potential car confi****ed problem under the hood and a potential registration problem when or if you have to sell or get this car registered with that engine in the car.
     
  15. bob308
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    angle plug heads were never on any iron head corvettes as a r.p.o.. they were bought over the counter.
     
  16. bobss396
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    Looks like a good deal to me, install it and drive the living piss out of it!

    Bob
     
  17. IRON MAIDEN
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  18. Heads: May 3 '73

    Get rid of those rockers! :eek:
     
  19. Larry T
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    The intake is for a quadrajet. If it were me, I'd run a quadrajet on it before I'd put the Holley on with an adaptor.
    Engine looks fresh, good buy!
    Larry T
     
  20. JeffB2
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    That is the intake I had on my last 350 build,I used a Holley Spreadbore R-6210-AAA-3 Carb.I would try the Quadrajet first,since it has sat for a while the accelerator pump may have dried out so give it a good soak with WD-40 which usually will expand it enough to work OK.The important thing with using a Dual-Port is utilizing it's port design,check out Exeter Auto Supply an Alliance vendor for the Offenhauser catalog on PDF there is an excellent preface on how this intake works,the spread bore intake you have is actually the prefered design as the small ports match the primaries and the large port matches the secondaries.A heat insulator is a must with either the Quadrajet or the Holley spreadbore,Jeg's has the 1" spacer Mr.Gasket #3406 use it! DO NOT use an open spacer with this intake or any type of adapter!
     
  21. coolbreeze1340
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    Like JeffB2 says, Holley makes a spreadbore carb that will bolt right on! The spacer (heat insulator) is a great idea. You did good on the buy. As far as all the comments about your cam, don't sweat it. I ran that same cam for years and even behind a Turbo 350 with 273 rear gears, it was still a real blast to drive. Use the 700r4 and some 3.73's and you will be very pleased with the "drivability" of this motor.
     
  22. DD COOPMAN
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    ...and that RPO option # on the '63-'65 327 Vette motor with THESE heads would be...?????????? DD[​IMG]
     
  23. IRON MAIDEN
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    Not sure why anyone is thinking these are correct heads for the motor. The guy was clear that he bought them from the dealership in 70-71 and installed them on his 350 powered 65 Vette. He recently swapped heads and rebuilt these to install on the 327.
    Here is the info I found

    1969-72 3991492 350 2.02 1.6 - service only
     
  24. bob308
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    no iron we were not disagreeing with you. it is just some one thinks they are an expert will not admit they made a mistake. then try to cover themselfs with it was a special rare order part.

    in fact you have one real good set of heads there. as for the cam i have always liked the milder cams more. less valve train wear and tear.

    you got a great deal in know i cloud not build you a motor like it with those parts for that price. even if you had the cores to start with.
     
  25. racemad55
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    Why? are they junk? I was thinking of going with a set on my 327.
     
  26. There are a lot better ones.
     
  27. IRON MAIDEN
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    Thanks bob308.
    There are always gonna be better this or that. If the ultimate goal was HP, then I wouldn't have gone small block. If I had the $$$$$, I would have bought a crate motor. If I had $$$$ i would have done this or done that... But I don't. In fact, the money I spent on this motor was more than I should have at this time. It was an impulse buy knowing that to rebuild any motor would cost more than this. So I jumped on it and plan to make the best of it. If it turns out to be a peppy little motor that will make the truck fun to cruise and get pretty good gas mileage, then I'm gonna be happy. I want a dependable drivetrain with some power to make it fun to drive. I guess I will see what I end up with.
     
  28. IRON MAIDEN
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    Why? Aluminum Roller Rockers are $$$$
     
  29. I know you want to run it as is, so do it. These rockers aren't the best but they will work for a while, till one pin breakes, then replace them.
     
  30. 1931av8
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    I was also going to run a set of these on my 327. They seem to be the only thing that will allow a set of low aluminum Corvette or steel Chevrolet script valve covers to be used. Anyone else have a more reliable solution without using one of the those BS valve cover shims?
     

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