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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by theglassman, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. theglassman
    Joined: Dec 23, 2007
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    me and a friend of mine are brain storming about runnin his altornator

    in a remote location away from his motor.......due to space....

    we've read all there is about the rearend mounted ones...
    seen some different ideas out of the compotition stereo world....

    my idea is to use a small electric motor with a v-belt simular to what is used for a water pump.......

    i understand the motor would be hooked to the battery and such....

    the only real load on the battery is an HEI, and a automatically controll cooling fan with the ocasional head light or two....

    anyone see anything im missing here ....or have any ideas....other than the drive line mounted one.........

    weve also seen the cable driven one to........
     
  2. Jimmy2car
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    I'm not sure that I understand. You want to run an alternator with an electric motor? In a remote location? It (alternator) needs to be driven from some portion of the running gear in the car. I've seen them on the engine itself (normal fashion), driven from the transmission slip yoke, and driven from the rear axle yoke. I don't think you can make a perpetual motion deal out of this, but if you do, let me know first.
    Jim
     
  3. binderfan
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    I was just thinking the same thing...perpetual motion machine?

    How are you running the electric motor, from the battery? Why not cut out the middle man and run the whole car off the battery then? Seems like you'd have the same set up either way: a dead battery in a few hours.

    Maybe I just don't understand....
     
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  4. theglassman
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    why couldnt you run the alt "motor" with the battery and then run the rest of the car off of the alt..............


    with the alt mounted off the rear end it wont be charging while the car is stopped.....im tryin to fix that problem.........
     
  5. BISHOP
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    Put a big fan on top of the car....... connect the fan to the alternator, problem solved.

    Turbo driven alternator hasent been invented yet, jump on that.
     
  6. Heo
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  7. DD COOPMAN
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    You's two guys could probably get jobs as scientists for the guvmint. DD[​IMG]
     
  8. adamshumard
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    ..............WOW................... i thought i had bad ideas.....
     
  9. BISHOP
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    Cable driven alternator???? Where did you see that???
     
  10. You'll be better off to find some way to mount the alternator on the engine and pull it with a conventional V belt or serpentine belt setup. If you're not pulling a lot of accessories and don't really need a high amperage alternator, there are some very compact size alternators available. I talked to a guy with a T bucket that had a very bare bones electrical system--I noticed the very small alternator and asked him about it. He told me that it was a Kubota tractor alternator and said it worked fine.
     
  11. pasanger seat get a set of pedals and have that person redal
     
  12. adamshumard
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    I say mount a fifth wheel out back with a spinner on it. and a pulley on the spinner with a belt ran off of it to the alt. that way when you stop it keeps charging. I may patent the idea as the "kinetitron" so hurry with yours.
     
  13. Russco
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    This reminds me of the DIRECT EXHAUST INJECTION idea
     
  14. dodgord
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    why use a battery at all? use the power from the alt to run the electric motor!
     
  15. gimpyshotrods
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    Entropy, as in the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
     
  16. Some commercial passenger jet aircraft have a drop -into -the airflow prop driven hydraulic pump. (Airbus I think ).If that does'nt work they make you wind the widows down and flap your arms.
     
  17. KrisKustomPaint
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    just wrap rubber bands around the pulley and wind it up.
     
  18. Bloodandmotoroil
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    shaft drive it to a turbo on the exaust, that way you can have it anywhere and i've done it, works well , used it with gens to. and a/c pumps and power stearing pumps, its good for space saving showcars.
     
  19. Domino
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    One of the coolest alternator drive systems I have ever seen was one we came up with several years back. A friend of mine was looking for a way to get the alternator out of the way of a motor plate and eliminate the alignment problem. I suggested running the alternator directly off the crank pulley. We came up with the idea of engaging the alternator pulley with the harmonic balancer. We made a 4 pronged cup that bolted to the center of the harmonic balancer and we made another one to bolt on the alternator. We bolted the alternator solidly to the engine with a bracket and lined up the couplers. The crank drove the alternator directly. It worked fine, but our design was very crude. It could be refined to look and work perfectly. His car had an electric water pump, so the belt was eliminated.
     
  20. JoeySwass
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