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what size Generator will work with this welder?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Dirty30Dodge, Jun 30, 2010.

  1. Dirty30Dodge
    Joined: Jan 10, 2009
    Posts: 698

    Dirty30Dodge
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    Hey guys

    I rolled the dice with this Clarke welder to finish my Dodge build and I need to figure out what size gas generator will work with it! The 10k watt generators are out of my budget but I can get 5k - 7k on craigslist for $300-$500 What size can I get away with. is there a mathmatic chart watts to amps ratio I need to watch out for?

    I am still new to welding but an expert grinder? LOL The lincolns are nice but its all out of the budget these days. A few years ago I was welding at my old house and the AC compressor for the House literally melted and the circuit breaker cought on fire! Maybe was just the welding gods telling me something so I dont want to test out this house LOL

    Clarke Specs Paid $305.00 on evilbay

    Clarke USA 190EN WE6484 MIG/Fluxcore Wire Welder (220V)
    This NEW in factory sealed box Clarke 190EN MIG/Fluxcore 220V Wire Feed Welder is easily converted from Gas to Fluxcore welding and will easily weld 1/4 in. steel in a single p***! Electronic wire speed control and 6 variable heat settings allow you to precisely adjust the welder to your needs and is fan cooled for better performance. Operates on 220 volt electrical supply. You will be getting this NEW in factory sealed box Clarke 190EN welder along with roll of wire, welding mask, chipping hammer, and manual as well but NO regulator. Check out the new Clarke gas regulator to go along with this if you will be doing gas welding in my other listings!
    Features:
    6 power settings for maximum welding control
    Easily welds 1/4" in a single p***
    Fan cooled for better performance
    Solid state electronic heat control with large PC board for better wire speed control
    Weld steel, aluminum, stainless, copper and cast iron, requires correct wire and gas
    Operates from standard 220 VAC.
    Automatic thermal safety switch prevents overload
    Mig gun with full On / Off safety control.
    Mig Gun is non-live with built in gas shut off.
    Welds with or without gas
    Tough metal casing
    Input 230V, 60HZ, 25 Amps, 1 ph
    Weight 65lbs.
     
  2. Blue One
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
    Posts: 11,523

    Blue One
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    from Alberta

    Easy, just wire in the appropriate sized wire and breaker into your panel and get the proper plug in for the welder. 8 gauge wire, 30 amp - 220volt breaker and you are good to go.
    You can even make a 220 volt extension cord with the proper sized wire and ends.

    Generator ? Plug the damned thing in and use it like it was made to be used.
     
  3. Dirty30Dodge
    Joined: Jan 10, 2009
    Posts: 698

    Dirty30Dodge
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    I will see what this really old house I live in has in the circuit breaker box. There is a few newer boxes out side I will check those also. Just not sure if I want to risk it and I can also use it for jobs away from the house also! Thanks
     
  4. MEDDLER1
    Joined: Jun 1, 2006
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    If you must use a gennie you will need at least a 5000w unit.I use one at work all the time with the lincoln sp175 and a honda 5000w gen with no issues.
     
  5. Francisco Plumbero
    Joined: May 6, 2010
    Posts: 2,533

    Francisco Plumbero
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    from il.

    Theres something about surges and volt dropage that can damage your welder or generator or both, I believe there is a device or precaution that has to be dealt with before you just plug and go. Any one hear of this?
     
  6. MEDDLER1
    Joined: Jun 1, 2006
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    I have never had an issue with my set up and use it alot.Although on some of the more inexpensive generators I could see maybe having and issue not being able to handle the inrush current when you start a bead.Good point!
     
  7. Dirty30Dodge
    Joined: Jan 10, 2009
    Posts: 698

    Dirty30Dodge
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    Thanks That is a good point! Meddler you use a "gennie"With the Honda? What is a "gennie" ? Thanks
     
  8. MEDDLER1
    Joined: Jun 1, 2006
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    HA! HA! Sometimes I dont pay attention to what im typing! gennie(generator) I sorta said it twice in the same sentence huh.sorry!
     
  9. Scott Hightower
    Joined: Apr 8, 2010
    Posts: 17

    Scott Hightower
    Member
    from Georgia

    There is no linear conversion from watts to amps. However, to power your 230 volt welder at full load 25 amps you would need 5,750 watts. The calculation is 230 volts x 25 amps = 5,750 watts.

    A 5500 watt generator is marginal. I would be on the lookout for a 7500 watt generator to be on the safe side.

    Scott
    Fab Manager
    Welders360
     

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