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Pie Crust Slicks any new info ??

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Rice n Beans Garage, Jul 9, 2010.

  1. Rice n Beans Garage
    Joined: Dec 17, 2006
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    I know this has been posted before but I'm thinking of running some 8.20 x 15 cheater slicks on my fendered A Sedan, mostly a cruiser, what is the lastest and and greatest to "Run" ??

    Your thoughts !!

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. Hightone111
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    Not the Hurst retreads...were coming apart within a year
     
  3. Dynaflash_8
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    from Auburn WA

    I love my Hurst Retreads. Have alot of miles on em and a great tire
     
  4. R Frederick
    Joined: Mar 30, 2009
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    from illinois

    I've been beating my brains in for a year over this myself. I'd love to run piecrust cheaters, but I don't trust them. I think I'm going with the Firestone dirt grooved.
     
  5. mcknight05
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    What kind of miles do you get out of them? Im going to start shoping for a set aswell.
     
  6. fastphil
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    from lufkin tx.

    what about towel city retreads?
     
  7. Hightone111
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    How long have you been running them?
     
  8. I put a few thousand miles, many burnouts, several p***es at Mokan on two different cars with my Hursts, never had an issue. GV still has them and runs them on the strip, they are 7 or 8 years old.
     
  9. CraigR
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    Do It!!
    I ran 8.20 hurst recaps 'til I wore 'em out. Mostly daily driven on LA freeways, a few smokey burnouts, ran em lower than recomended (helped the car ride better due to funky rear end setup) and no issues.
     
  10. OoltewahSpeedShop
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    I have Radir M&H's on my sedan. They have a 8.20 that look cool. Mine have never made a revolution under power (YET) but I have never heard anything negative about them.

    http://www.radirwheels.com/slicks.htm

    Kevin
     
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  11. cdo1953
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    I ran hurst dirt track and cheater slicks on my roadster, The slicks in town and the dirt tracks on long trips , which were good in the rain . they held up nice even with my heavy foot . The Firestones are are new ,not recaps and very pricy $$$$. I also ran 3" port a walls on both sets with no problems .
     
  12. LSGUN
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    from TX

  13. pops29
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    from turlock ca

    Hurst I Have about 2000 on mine and no issues
     
  14. Master of None
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    +1 for Hurst got close to 2500 miles on mine. But I also keep a close eye on the air pressure in them, I've had no issues.
     
  15. dlotraf
    Joined: Apr 7, 2010
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    Towel City Recaps. Ran their recaped stock car tires, never had a problem. Got some 9 x 15 piecrusts on my truck, look good and no problems. $145 for blackwall +20, I think, for whitewall.
     
  16. Black_Sheep
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  17. Dynaflash_8
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    from Auburn WA

    They've been on the car since april and about 1000 miles. I run em at 28 psi un balenced. Done alot of big smokey burnouts and alot of highway miles, and they're awesome. Trick is to take em out and smoke em hard to even out the tread. Thats what cody told me, and iv had no problems
     
  18. grits
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    One thing you can count on with recaps, they'll come apart when you least expect them to and **** up you car.
     
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  19. AJofHollywood
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    Funny how the subject comes up. I got Street Rodder in the mail yesterday, there is a 4-page article on Hurst Racing Tires and how they re-tread them.

    http://www.hurstracingtires.com/
     
  20. Dynaflash_8
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    with a cold cap, yes. Not a hot cap like what hurst uses.

    Heres a quote from another site.





    "Bill, the tires that chunk and make the little black alligators are recapped, aka cold capped tires. Those tires have the remaining tread ground off, and then a new layer of tread is glued to the carc***. No heat is applied, and the tire is not revulcanized. The only thing holding on the tread is adhesive. When those tires are ran underinflated, which causes heat to build up, the glue lets go and the tire flies apart. A recapped tire is cheaper than an actually revulcanized retread tire, but is not as well made and requires the drive to check the pressure more often. Trucking companies, and the NHTSA, know this, so those tires are used on the dual wheels where they won't cause loss of control if they let go. Even recaps have a low failure rate, think of how many trucks go down that stretch of road, eh?

    But, the tires I reviewed are not cold capped, so those road side chunks really have no bearing on the tires in the review. The guy who mounted them for me also mentioned the chunking, which is why I said that people who dislike retreads have no experience with them.

    Quality retreads are revulcanized, and that is what makes them different than a recap, or cold cap. The tread is chemically bonded to the carc*** and is in no more danger of chunking than a factory new tire. Just so you know, a "factory new" tire also vulcanizes the tread to the carc***. In other words, a company like Hi-Tech-Retreading uses the exact same process as a new tire manufacturer once the carc*** is prepped. www.tirefailures.com has a .pdf file of the process of making a new tire. Download it and compare it to the process as explained on the hi-tech web site, and see for yourself.

    My grandfather was a heavy equipment operator, and also cut timber and ran a 110 acre farm. At various time he also owned a service station and a small fleet of trucks. He ran retreads for decades on log trucks, grain trucks, wreckers, and his personal trucks. I don't think my grandfather ever bought a new tire for anything but his Lincolns.

    None of them ever chunked. He had 4 decades (early 1950s - 1992) of driving everything from IHC grain trucks to Ford 3/4 tons, and he did not have a single chunked tire, not one tread seperatation. My father and I own a construction company, which we started about 9 years ago. With the exception of two trucks, one still on the original rubber and one on a set of Michelins I gave him off of my old personal truck, the tool trucks run retreads. No tread seperations. Three generations of my family have used retreads successfully for over 50 years, primarily because we paid the extra money for true retreads and not cold capped tires.

    I stand by my statement that those who dislike retreads have no experience with them. Every bad thing I've heard about retreads has been based solely on seeing the alligators along the road, and not from experience."
     
  21. Muttley
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    I dont trust re-caps, I'm running Radir's on my Comet:

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  22. Chuckles Garage
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  23. 6t5frlane
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    Muttley, What size are the rims and tires. I have a 65 Fairlane and there is not much room in those rear wheelwells for sure. Was thinking about the 14 inch Casler tires
     
  24. Muttley
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    The tires are 7.75 x 14. The Radirs I'm running are available in either 14 or 15 inch, I went with the 14's for the look of a little bigger sidewall. Other than the size of the wheel they accept the 14's and 15's are identical. The sidewall cleaned up just fine, the pictures in my other post were just after they were mounted and the stuff on the sidewall had not been cleaned off. The wheels are 14 x 7. I'm not sure on the back spacing. They were made by Wheelkid (Jimmy) at Rally America. He pressed the center into the hoop, I had the tire mounted and did a test fit and then Jimmy adjusted to make up for my lack of measuring skills. Jimmy did a fantastic job on the wheels, I cant recommend Rally America highly enough.
     
  25. 6t5frlane
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    Thanks for the info . They look great !
     
  26. We sell the Hurst recaps and in three years have not had ANY complaints about their performance www.kellyshotrodparts.com
     
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  27. kycat
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    i just got my towel city retreads in today very happy with the quality for the price and the shipping was super fast. i got'em mounted up they took about 3oz each to balance cant wait to roll down the road on them.
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  28. i been looking at the radirs, work with hot and cold recaps everyday....i just can't risk trashing my cherry 1938 fiat topolino wheel wells and doors to save a buck and run recaps....my fiat tin is worth more then the price difference....

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  29. need louvers ?
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    I've sold quite a few Hurst cheaters over the last year or two, and haven't had any problems at all. They're radials too. Don't care what anybody says, radials flat work better than bias ply tires, and I'm just old enough to have logged allot of miles on bias ply before they were nostalgic. That said, My roadster pick up will be sporting Coker Firestones, because they just look right on a forties style build. But when I can cheat and get better ride and handling with some thing modern that looks old, I'm in!
     
  30. gmstuff
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    My Hurst cheaters have been trouble free.
     

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