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How should I mount this steering box?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Vintage Vandal, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. Vintage Vandal
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    A friend gave me a saginaw box to see If I could make it work in my 28 tudor. Anyone ever use this box before? Any pics of mounting setups? Im lost. Its just mocked up in the pics
     

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  2. Hitchhiker
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    DON'T USE ZIP TIES!:rolleyes:
     
  3. Lucky77
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    Do you know what its out of? The Corvair box mounts like that once its been reversed but a Vega box gets mounted at the bottom of the ch***is in a cross steer position,not fore and aft like you have that one mocked up.
     
  4. Vintage Vandal
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    Not sure what it is out of. But it swings correctly as it sits. Maybe it is reversed??
     
  5. Looks like a nice box.
     
  6. Arthur1958
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    Will you have radius rods? Then you should mount the steering box so the drag link is parallel at dead center and moves vertically in about the same arc as the driver-side radius rod. ... If you run front coil springs or parallel leaf springs, then I have no idea; but I'm sure someone here will know.
     
  7. Lucky77
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    Is that steering shaft permanently affixed to the box? Looks like it. Maybe its an old truck steering box. So if you turn the wheel to the right the arm moves backwards and to the left it goes forward? If so then its going in the right direction. Do the bolt holes run up and down in the box as pictured or do the run parallel to the ch***is as its pictured. I run a reversed Corvair and I just made a little plate that sits about 3/4" off the top of the frame then I gusseted it from the top of the plate to the inside of the framerail. There is an enormous amount of stress on the steering system. Make sure you know how to weld this stuff up good.
     
  8. JohnEvans
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    Before worrying about mounting it ,pull it apart and make sure it is in usable condition. If so then get some poster board and make some proposed mounting brackets to get a feel for what you need to make. Can't see enough of the box's stock mounting points to make any suggestions.
     
  9. Lucky77
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    Its kind of hard to see but if the bolt holes run perpendicular to the ch***is like the Corvair, here's how I mounted mine.
     

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  10. Vintage Vandal
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    Thanks for the tips lucky. The box is fixed to the column and the steering arm moves the right direction. I'll get some more pics in a bit.
     
  11. Joe H
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    Casting number #263587 fits a '38-'40 Chevy truck. They mount using a clamp around the round part of the housing. If yours is this same box, or close to it, then you have it mounted up side down. Check the directions of the pitman arm before getting to deep in to it. The stock mounts are cast iron and use two 7/16" hard bolts and the pitman shaft pokes out the frame rail.

    http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/1929_54chevyparts/06/393.HTM

    Joe
     
  12. Vintage Vandal
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    Here are a couple more pics. Thanks for the info Joe. Thats the best info on this mysterious box so far. And before anyone asks again, the pitman arm moves the right way. I promise:D
     

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  13. Vintage Vandal
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    One desperation bump
     
  14. Looks like the 30s GM pickup box I used on the Touring. Made a plate and welded it in the cowl, your frame mount will be easy.
     
  15. Vintage Vandal
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    You have any pics of your cowl setup? I was pondering the thought:rolleyes:
     
  16. F&J
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    What you need is the same type of bracket that the old VW bus box uses.

    It bolts to two sides of the frame (a L shaped bracket), then there is a bored hole with a split in the bracket to pinch the bracket to that machined cylindrical area on your box.

    I just started on mine today...I'll try for a pic tomorrow....or do a search for vw bus steering box...there must be a pic on hamb
     
  17. zombo27
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    I have one just like that out in the garage somewhere. The person that gave it to me said it was out of a Chevy (Saginaw, duh) Truck
     
  18. Joe H
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    Looking at the other pictures, is for sure a '38-'39 gear box for a Chevrolet truck. My '37 box looks just like that, the "40 truck box I have is different.

    Joe
     

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