So,are they "traditional" enough for discussion here? Allready there's mail vans or ice cream trucks with long threads,more door cars and vans.I have a 51 Willys PU,I know some other guys have them and maybe even,holy ****,a CJ2.Lots of old Willys utility vehicles got V-8's stuffed under the hood.That would make it a hot rod I suppose....For some of us,Hot Rod applies even when the pavements ends and the road turns to mud..........
I know of at least one other guy here with a thing for hot rod jeeps. Mine is a 46 CJ2A with a 231 V6/TH350 and four wheel disc brakes that I adapted to the original axles. I'm still building it but I'm going for a late 60's vibe for it, including a barefoot accelerator pedal. Over the years I've seen some truly *****in Jeep hot rods (everything from flathead V8's, nailheads, VW motors and big blocks have been crammed in a Jeep) but I don't discuss them much here because even I don't consider them as "traditional" as it is defined on the HAMB. However I think most here will tolerate a nicely hopped up Willys. Some where on the site I posted a 50's Hot Rod magazine article about hopping up the Jeep four cylinder engine. WillysTech is another great forum/site dedicated to all things Willys... purists to monster truck builders. Good people with a lot on knowledge.
I have a 51-55 Truck 327/SM465, and a 53 Wagon 360/727, of the two trucks that I built the one , the 51 had been converted to a 283 some time in the late 50s early 60s so I would say a V8 is a period correct switch
I've got a '61 Civilian pickup originally done in the '60s with a Craiger kit. Someone started to reduex it and lost interest (last registered in '88). I call it the anti-rod. I'm still sorting out the wiring should be on the road soon. I hope. Um I need a 16" jeep wheel for a spare tire. If someone has one. And I could use a line on 7.50x16 rough tread tires (bias-ply). Pm only please. OK sorry for the high jack. Find pics in the odd rods social group. I have purposely avoided posting on the main board, just to avoid starting a fire storm. I'm not absolutely sure that you could count an old Willys as a trad rod. Perhaps done period I.E. no monster romper stomper mudders, it could be considered a trad parts chaser/go and bring 'em back truck. I have a firm belief that if one is serious about being a rodder that one should own a parts chaser, or at the very least be good friends with someone that does. Trad is optimum.
Here's my 51 running around my property testing out the 4 wheel drive.Me and my wife built this from a pile of junk,non rusty but it needed everything and a lot is hand made.I'm installing new gl*** as we speak so it'll be on the road shortly.It's stock with the 131 cubic inch F head. Got some different wheeels and turn the tires around so no white letters show.
Mine is a little later, a 1962 Station Wagon, ***led (and Vin) as a '65. But it's a hot rod all the way. SBC coupled to a drive-train from a M38A1 Military vehicle, with the heavy duty rear and front axles. Also has a very nice mid 60's PTO winch on the front. Body is in rough condition, but we redid the engine, cooling, brakes, fuel system and new wiring, hoping to get it through inspection on Monday and drive it.
Amazing that they really don't change much from about '46 ot about '64 I think. The big wheels don't look bad on yours at all. I'm trying to go skinny and tall because of my gear. Denmon used to make a directional 7.50x16 that was about 31 or 32" tall. Looked pretty old timey. But someone said they are no longer in business. Damn the luck. Here's lookin at ya. My front tires are shot even though they look OK
There are a couple of them around here that guys have converted to two wheel drive and dropped them as low as they will go and they look pretty good but it drives the local redneck 4x4 guys nuts. My 8BA flathead had spent most of it's life in a Jeep Wagon that is late 40's early 50's before I bought it a few months ago and pulled it out.
This one followed me home. It's a '49 with almost zero body left. Notice the roof is laying in the bed. It blew off at about 40 mph when we towed it home. I got it for the wheels to put on my cj project with intentions of selling what left. Now I'm tempted to remove all sheet metal from the firewall back and build wooden utility bed and buggy seat, and use it as a doodlbug yard tractor.
You could snag the roof off a wagon and build it with wood all the way back and have a Jeep Woody. I never realized that the late '40s truck had the flat jeep grill. Guess I just haven't been paying enough attention.
Yes,all pretty much the same and directly adapted from the WW2 Willys Jeep,probably the most famous combat vehicle ever made. The tires on it are 30x9.50 x 15 radials on 8 inch wide wagon wheels.I like the big tires but they would look nicer on wide stock looking wheels. This is my wife's truck actually,when she saw the three shift levers coming out of the floor,her daily driver 50 Chevy PU was mine and the Willys was hers.
Willys 4x4s are a traditional something. What that is I don't know. I do know they were very popular around here and back in the day people would swap in a V8 once the 6 or four cylinder gave up the ghost. I looked at a 49 Willys pickup with a Y-block swapped into it. The swap was done in the late 50s so I guess if Mail and Milk trucks can be traditional so can Willys pickups.
Yea the raven and I were working on mine awhile back on garage nite. We decided that the new catch phrase for the trad rod set should be real hotrods have 3 shifters. I'm afraid that it probably won't catch on. When I was a kid (later '50 early '60s) you used to see 'em hauling a flat tracker or a hill climber quit a bit. If I were going to show mine (LOL) it would either be with a flat tracker in the back or maybe a midget on a single axle trailer. Face it they are the quintessential utility vehicle and they should be treated that way.
On WillysTech there was a thread defining Jeep status by the number of shifters. Mininum for coolness was 4. Trans, transfer case hi/low, transfer case 2wd/4wd and Warn Overdrive. It was all very tongue-in-cheek of course but they start adding up when people put in multiple transfer cases for ultra low rock crawling gearing choices.
Jeeps make great hot rods - I had a great green Willys 6-226 wagon with a 283 in it (4x4) - just a sweet rig. Built a CJ5 with an LT-1/M21 combo - imron paint with flames, GM tilt...Camaro buckets....quickest Jeep in town dj
One of my buddies in highschool bought a surplus jeep (WWII) from the govt. (1968). Once we got the cosmolene (sp?) off of it it was all good including the original tires except that the engine was locked up. His mom had a wrecked Buick Special (V-6) so he found an adapter and we shoved that ****** in there. It was a couple of weeks after we bolted the engine in that he showed up with it running at my place and took me for a ride. He said it would only run 80 MPH flat out and he got it going flat out. You haven't lived until you have been in an Old Military Jeep (all stock except the engine) at that speed. Just freakin' insane.
I'm in for any Jeep Hot Rod mixes........ And '****** I think I've got the wheel you need. Here's some pic of a project that went a little to far to the ratrod dark side. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/album.php?albumid=9308 SO know I'm thinking a Jeep modified with a 230 OHC or 327 AMC or 134 or 161 F-Head. Jeff
Used to be a fella on here called Crow. I think he just does the jockey journal now. Anyway he was a rock crawler way back when it wasn't as popular as it is now and had a ton of old military stuff. He was in the process of building an Altered out of a CJ5A or something like that. Back in the '70s I think it was there was a CJ that ran AA/FA. The front axle stuck out past the Grill a lot like they use to do the Crosleys and fiats. Cool car to watch make a p***.
I had a CJ5 for a while with 5 shifters. I had the 3 speed, the two transfer case levers, a Warn overdrive, and a PTO driven winch. The Warn was cool because it replaced the input gear of the transfer case out of the PTO port. The Warn had a little known output gear in the back so you could still add a PTO.
Yeah,And you are too! The story about the 3 gear shift levers ain't exactly true.....My has got a pto so four shift levers.And some can't even manage a single lever and a clutch pedal Yup,the traditional utility vehicle.And in my opinion a **** of lot more traditonal than a mail trucks or mid engine vans as far as hot rods are concerned
you guys need to move with care!!!!!!! someone sold me a 1963 jeep pickup with an ohc 230 engine, runs good. i now have 6 more of them! btw jeep stands just empty every pocket. can't help it. ok you have been warned!!! can;t stand to see them s****ed out
I've been on here since '03 with my '50 Plymouth. I sold the Plymouth a couple of months ago, and just bought a '60 Wagon. Trying to get it shipped home from Arkansas to Idaho now... Working with Jim of TrulyVintage here on the HAMB to get it shipped. He just needs to fill the other half of his trailer and it will be on it's way. Anyone looking to ship a car west should give him a call... Looking forward to all four shifters... Might just have to hop-up the 226 like I did my Plymouth flatty. A Kaiser supercharger would be traditional, right? Here's my wagon, Pete
I sold my 58 pick up, but here is a thread on my 56 wagon. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464652 I won't argue whether its traditional or not, but I will say it has suprised some hot rods and muscle cars in its day. It has shed a lot of weight, so hopefully it will be quicker this time around.
It seemed that every other gas station in the 50s had a Willys 4x4 with a plow for the winters. I fell in love with them then. Some time in the 70s, I traded a 36 Ford pickup beater for a 53 Willys P/U beater. I ended up putting the Willys on a 3/4 ton Suburban frame shortened 11" It was a real Teddy Roosevelt...a rough riding suna*****! It would go anywhere. I've always wanted one of the FC Jeeps. Forward Control flat nosed pickups. There were a lot of TV ads in the 50s. I want to say that Alcoa owned them IIRC I don't remember the show that they sponsored but I do remember their ads. To me they are every bit as traditional as a 56 Ford P/U
Theres a company that builds a fibergl*** 41-42 Willys pickup thats designed to use an S10 ch***is. I think it would be awesome to build one on a 4x4 S10 ch***is. Nothing monster truck, either, just a maroon, stock-looking Willys on black steel wheels with knobby tires. A woodie wagon done that way would be awesome too. -Dave
OK I hate to point this out but that thing would run a lot better if you replaced the invisible hoses with real ones. Is that a Paxton super charger? My small block is real low comresiion like about 8:1 I think. Needless to say it was not the HP motor. A little boost wouldn't hurt it at all. BTW all you willys guys should join the oddrod social group http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/group.php?groupid=327 or we should start W/O social group.
Mine is choped, chanelled and has an altered wheel base and I don't know if it is "traditional" enough for here.
Here is my latest project. 1953 wagon, 302 Ford V-8, 4 wheel drive, painted in 1977 and never re-***embled. Just shoved into the garage and forgot about. My garage find post was deleted but it looks like I have found the right place to post. The jeep is loaded with vintage guages, 3 sets of bucket seats, walker gl*** packs, a couple heavy duty radiators. Plans are to keep it very traditional. Can't wait to hear the 1970 vintage 302 rumble. Thanks, Gary
Here are a couple pictures of the jeep getting it's first wash job since 1977. It cleaned up very well. Now it's time for a wax job. I almost forgot how. Gary
The Jalopy Journal
