I sold my roadster to a fellow, and he is mad.

I sold my roadster to fellow, and he is mad.
He changed to Synthetic Oil as soon as he got the car. The motor was a SBC 383 stroker TPI motor. The motor was always ran with, and broke in with Shell rotella Diesel oil. The car ran 190/ 220 temp, for me. This is in Florida.
After he had the car and I found out he changed to Synthetic, I said, I did not think the camshaft would last very long, as it did not have all of the correct additives. Am I all wet about the oil change not being a good idea!

The motor has a Hyd flat tappet (SLP) camshaft, for TPI motors. High lift, don't remember the specs.
Low and behold, Something went wrong with the motor, he has not told me or won't what the problem is. He thinks I sold him a bad motor. He say there was no way I drove it every day, I did!

The most he said between the bad words, the motor burnt up. He has mentioned that one of my son's said there was a elec fan issue, If there was I was not aware of it. I said I would look in to it.

This gentlemen is really pissed at me. Im a honest man, I would not have sold the car if there was anything wrong. I only sold it to make several late mortgages payments, In fact it was my son's car.

Anybody ever any problems with this change in oil ?

 

How is a person to know what is wrong? I was a mechanic for decades....never used the term "motor burnt up" unless there was an engine fire.

 

Im sure the zink additive isnt gunna last long either, since they took it out of the oil to begin with. Why do they thinks zink is so bad anyway? Its his own fault for running synthetic **** anyway, and if its flat tappet its a no brainer to run zink!

 

He bought a modified old car. You sold him what you knew to be a solid car. What he did with it or to it after that is beyond your control.

I would not be too upset about it, ignore it and tell him to take his bad language and at***ude elsewhere.

If he wanted a warranty he should have bought a new Hyundai

 

I guess he means over heated and failed ! He so mad he uses all caps, That means he is yelling at me!

 

Private sale?

Tell him if his latin is rusty to look up "Caveat emptor" on google.

 

yes

 

How long did the guy have it?
What EXACTLY happened with it?
What was he doing when it broke?

There are only so many things that will make a motor die. Find out why it died.

As for the synthetics... the off-road-use only oils still have the additive packages, such as RedLine. I don't know about other brands like Mobile 1, etc. Rotella still has the additives, and you NEED the additives for a flat tappet cam. If he's running synthetic oils and the cam went away, obviously that's his fault.

Did he drive the car away from your house? Did he test drive it? Were there any problems? It's not like a guy can say "I drive the car every day" and take someone for a test drive and the thing runs like hell. And by the same token, a car isn't going to run fine on the test drive and the drive home, and then magically croak when the door goes down on a different garage.

It sounds to me like he screwed something up, and is having a hard time dealing with the fact that HE killed it, and some of your money will make him feel better.

-Brad

 

Did the temp gauge work! If so tell him to pound salt in his ***....he should have shut it off if it was hot!

 

He screwed up and wrecked the car......but it couldn't be HIS fault. He's a 'jenious'.

Tell him you'll buy it back for $100.

 

Did he buy this car without driving it or going over it personally?

 

Even the most reputable sellers have to say "as-is, where-is"

 

it's nuts and bolts man. **** goes wrong. not your fault.

 

for a lot of older motors and cams,

you have to have the oil with the zink just as you advised,

his problem if he didn't listen to you about that!

Rotella and Synthetic is a BIG difference and should not be changed from one to the other .

 

he bought a used cl***ic car you never now whats going to happen its a " as is sale "
if he didnt take care of the correct maintenance and watch the temp its his own fault
i think first thing he should have done is ask you what type of oil you use i would think on any special built engine you would want to keep the same oil thats been running in it you never now what would happen if you changed the type of oil in the engine it could possible have some sort of affect

i just bought a new old motorcycle it broke down on the way home exhaust fell off and burnt the intake valve so it was my fault but im still kinda mad...... nothing i can do but kick my self in the ***

 

Sounds like buyer remorse to me ,

tell him I'll buy the car ,

at a discounted price of course.

I know how to change out the motor and or fix the one in their.

 

To be fair to him he has not told exactly what went wrong. He is to busy being mad at me and using those big words. I do know know how it is to be so mad you can't think straight.

 

You could really piss him off and call the police and tell them he is threatening you, and show them the emails!!! That would really make his day!

 

As-is sale. Nothing more to do or say.

You advised him what oil you recommend and used previously. He chose his road to a bunt up pile. His problem.

 

As-is sale. Nothing more to do or say.

You advised him what oil you recommend and used previously. He chose his road to a bunt up pile. His problem.

 

this is really the long and short of it.

 

Here is what I sold him.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485361

 

Offer him his money back when the car is returned to you in the same condition that it was sold as.

Oldmics

 

thats to bad for him, you at least told him not to do it, so he ****ed himself and should have done his research!

 

So.... What does he expect you to do about it? I presume no written or implied warranty was offered. You had no control over what happened to the car once it left your ownership. I suggest telling him to stop bothering you, to have a nice day, and not to let the door knob hit him on the *** on the way out.

 

Buyers can be STUPID ... or try to BULLY you for their mistakes/ignorance

Years ago, I had a decent, nice paint and good upholstery equipped 49 F1 pickup with a SBC ... a fellow I worked with had lesser quality 56 F-100 but it was a Big Window with a SBC. He wanted to swap but I wanted to keep my almost fresh rebuilt engine. So we swapped trucks without engines ... ( I took out my engine ... he took out his ) We swapped trucks minus the engines.

He installed his engine in the 49 F1. I installed mine in the 56 F-100. After about 2 weeks his engine ( in my old truck ) dies and he told everyone that would listen that I shafted him and cheated him. He did not tell everyone that the dead engine was HIS old engine.

IF I were you ... I would pay him no attention ... just like I did with the fool who swapped a 56 F-100 Big Window for 49 F1

 

Well,,sometin else is wrong with that deal ,,when i bought my Blower SB Chevy motor ,,it was broke in and been run on 10 w 30 Quaker State ,,burned a half a quart every 2 to 3 thousand miles ,,I switched it to Castrol 20 w 50 Synthetic ,,ain't burned a drop since,,Same with the Hurst/Olds motor in my '78 GMC MotorHome and my old '77 Jag XJS w' a V-12 ,,
the Synthetic oil ain't the problem here ,,it's the loose nut behind the steering wheel ,,,tell him to **** Off ,,

 

I saw Kendal motor oil on the self the other day and it claimed to still have all the additives in it still.

edsel

 

On all my high end engine builds I run LAT oil, about $14 a quart. I have been treated well over the years by my engine builders, but I always figure it is a curb warranty. If I buy a running driving car and it ****ters on the way home that is my problem. Is your last name CARMAX? If not he can pound sand... Hell give him my phone number and I will school him. It is in my sig...

 

i have heard of that happenin when switchin from rotella to other oils. never actually seen it though. that said, only gawd knew what was goin on inside that motor and he wasnt sayin. no way you coulda known unless it was showin some symptom. ****s that it happened but its a machine. they break. they ALL break eventually. he'll get over it.