Crappy work from Winfields Rod and Custom

Yea I don't know what went on, but that doesn't look like the work of someone with his experience, If I was running a shop and someone brought back a car that left MY shop like that, heads would be rolling. there's something up with this entire thing, He wouldn't let his reputation be trashed with that kind of work

 

as much as everyone loves winfield, past and present, if this did come out of his shop it is still his responsibility. It is his duty as shop owner to hire people that will get the job done correctly and not cut corners; for not only the customer but also for his reputation. That work that was shown was incredibly bad and would not be expected out of a shop with such a stellar reputation, even if he didn't pay for "metal finish", he should still get better results then what he got.

 

I also think it might have been better to put this to the shop before telling all of us. Having a big name puts a big target on your back, it'd be shameful to disparage someone before you have all the facts in hand.

 

That looks like much older work..what did the body look like prior ? With todays tools etc,,that work seems like it would be hard to do. What would the wheel well have to do with the chop ??

lets see pictures of the rest of the chop,,not just the bad parts

 

Work of that quality from a man with that much of a reputation is very difficult to swallow.I really think that gene doesnt know that this work was put out from his shop...yes i know he should, but i think if he gave this an inspection over time he would have probably fired this guy and re do all the metal work.Maybe this will be a lesson to shop owners that you have to pay attention to the work being put out and to the skills of those you hire to do the job when you are doing other things.I really hope gene will correct this and being the true gentleman he is,i know he will

 

True, but niether of us are out any money so i can understand him venting to a point.

 

I agree with you I was just making a point as to if this did come out of his shop this guy might have been better off getting someone not as famous to do the work because the stuff shown can be done by just about anyone that I know. I am not trying to put anyone down but this is not acceptable for a shop like Winfield's IMHO.

 

I noticed in the first post, that the car was pulled before the job was done, then sandblasted, there is no mention of actually being done, this work could have existed before the car was even brought in, just never gotten to.

 

After this thread, especially if I saw it, I would not even help you. Same with that guy from arizona that was bashing that tire place for whatever happened with his rims. Posting the guys # and shit for us to call if we wanted to. You may as well have just done the same thing. Sorry if it actually happened. But not sorry if you get told to bend over after all of this.

 

This I agree with he has built a name for himself over numerous years and I am sure he is not going to want to have it ruined over this.

 

What the hell is everybody taking up for Gene for,it is his shop and at the end of the day the weight is on his shoulders,his responcibility to see good work is done,if crap like this is being done it can"t just be a one time only deal,Gene is one of the best at his trade.I am sure heads will roll after hes sees shoddy work like that coming out of his shop,anybody looking for a shop manager position?there will probably be an opening soon.

 

All it says in the OP is that it was pulled for time, then sandblasted, how many others have seen work like this from old time shops? it looks like original body work done much earlier, no where does it say they even finished the job.

 

The sandblasters will be busy tomorrow.

 

There's pics in his profiles, at the shop, before, after, the poster seems to have lots of them

 

"IF" this came out of his shop... that's the issue that I see right now. We don't know jack squat about that.

I could grab my favorite 'zine and go take a dump right now and say it came out of "so and so's" shop, doesn't mean it did, does it?

I'm not trying to defend the guy, I just have a problem with people airing their problems on a public forum before they make a concerted effort to get a response from the person they have a problem with. If he had gotten a response from Gene, and I don't believe it would be impossible to do so, then he would have said so. He didn't, so I'm of the mind that he hasn't exhausted every effort to clear this up with the shop... and in my opinion that makes this wrong.

 

From your profile pics it looks like some work was finished in Feb of 08. the chop was roughted in Oct of 2008, Why didn't you notice the workmanship issues when you took these pictures. All of this would be visible by looking at the inside of the car.
I would agree the workmanship is so-so, but why did did it take almost 2 years to post it up??

 

Wow I can't believe what I'm reading one dissatisfied customer and some pictures of rough work and people are ready to talk shit about GENE WINFIELD? Who are you and what have you done?!

 

Yes thats what I said,,I can't see any "resent" work done on this car

 

he does show pics of the car unchopped in his profile, so according to the dates on the profile it was chopped sometime in the last year and a half.

 

Looks unchopped to me.

 

If I were the OP, and my car spent a year at GW's shop and I spent many, many thousands of dollars there to have it done. I would probably want to very carefully think about whether or not to have the whole car sandblasted to bare metal.

Posted pics in 08, car was in the shop till 09 sometime, now its 10 and its sandblasted. That's hardly an outrageous timeframe.

It took some balls to sandblast away on that car after throwing so much money at it.

The OP deserves to be heard, that's all I'm sayin.

He probably didn't want to commit hamb suicide easily either by daring to post about a legend. I don't blame him, seeing as the long knives are out immediately.

I'm not saying who's right or wrong, that's not for me to judge, but the guy deserves to be heard. I don't think he's trying to shade the truth here.

 

K,did'nt know there were before pix,,and now looking at them,,if he was there to see the work,,would'nt he have noticed this "ugly" then ????

Mind you Im not defending the shop,,as I have no opinion in that respect..

 

yea I'm waiting to hear the other side of the story, every coin has two sides

 

So how is it he posts this and then goes back off line and doesn't respond. I would think if you are going to open up this big a bag of worms you would atleast stay with the post for awhile. Gene i believe is in his 80's and for sure has more help now more than ever. Also he is probably out of the shop for personal appearances which might also explain some of this. I would like to hear the other side of the story before i pass judgement.

 

I'm not bashing the original poster for being upset about his car, I just would have held off posting my frustration until I got a response from the shop is all... that's just me.

The timing of this thread sucks too, with all of us aware that Gene and some of his guys are over in Kansas right now... I'm not accusing the OP of anything other than poor timing.

 

This a good example of why a guy should learn how to do the modifications he wants himself. Not being a smart ass here, just pointing out what should be obvious. The whole point of "building" a car is to actually build it without sending anything out. That's a perfect world, I understand, and nearly everyone sends a certain portion of the build out to be done by someone more experienced or better qualified. In this case, it certainly appears that the right expert was chosen. What is not clear is what else took place. As I said earlier and has been said by others, there has to be a reason...an explanation... for the work shown in the pictures.

Back to my original point here... Body work and paint typically encompasses about 50% or more of a build project.(at least it did back when people actually painted their cars with something other than rattlecans). It's simple, basic work that ANYONE with half a brain can learn how to do. Chopping a top is not that big of deal. Neither is applying a top notch paint job, especially with the technology,equipment, and knowledge help/instruction that is available today. It's inconceivable to me to send out that much of the project, percentage-wise, out to be done by someone else.

The best part about doing it yourself.....

You can take pride and brag about your accomplishment. If it's less than what you expected, ya got nobody to blame but yourself.

 

Not the first of bad work from Gene that ive heard, look how thick the bondo was on the cadi that got wrecked at the auction storm, to thick for my liking. He also wrecked a buddy of mines car at back to the fifties, i seen that one first hand! So thats all im gonna say about that one, im no talented mother either but my standards are higher than that.

I believe the quality of metal work has gone up and the old custom work is nothing like what the quality is now, lots of lead pop rivits, brazing bondo etc etc.

JEFF

 

I'm here to answer your questions now

 

Have you contacted them about this issue?

 

I have not, the car was just blasted the other day