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T-Bucket on Model A Frame

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by TBUCKETMILLER, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. TBUCKETMILLER
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    Has anyone built a T-Bucket on a Model A Frame? Can you post pictures of it.
     
  2. need louvers ?
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    Pretty common back in the day. Most T buckets today are built on a dedicated frame though. The vast majority of "T" put on "A" frames now are built more traditionally and are more like a modified. If you are needing, I do build T bucket frames to order, and I'm just across town.
     
  3. do a search for rudy heredia and ventures album car. both on A frames Both Bitchin!
     
  4. This, little known, T Bucket was built on a Model A frame.
     

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  5. need louvers ?
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    As was Ivo's, As Was Royal shifters car, Most that you pick up any early sixties CAR CRAFT, or ROD&CUSTOM and look at were too. I'm just saying that unless you have a clean usable model A frame at your disposal, it's usually better to build from scratch than try to modify these days. Model "A" frames also are a bit wide where the firewall falls for a t bucket, in my opinion. Never quite like the notches in the cowl that Grabowski did on his car to fit the body over the frame. Not a deal breaker as far as liking the car, but a bit more work and it could have been better. Kinda' like Ivo's...
     
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  7. need louvers ?
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    You know T-Time, you might be right on that one. I'll take some time and double check it this afternoon.
     
  8. steel rebel
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    If you want to be real traditional use the A frame. If that doesn't matter just buy a Speedway frame. I wish now I had used an A frame. You always regret the cut corners.
     
  9. TBUCKETMILLER
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    I already have a good clean Model A frame and an old fiberglass body. Wish I could come up with a steel body. I think it would be cool to build a traditional style T-Bucket. Now I just need to decide what I want for an engine and transmission. Thanks guys for all your replies.
     
  10. Fro
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    I like the traditional look myself.
     

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  11. steel rebel
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    If you want a traditional '50s T think big V8 made before '60 and a stick shift. Your glass body is fine. Remember every corner you cut you will regret.
     
  12. need louvers ?
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    Ya, don't feel bad about a glass body at all. Hard for some to realize, but glass "T"bodies have been around for about fifty years now. I just picked up another that I believe is a Fiberfab from about '62 or '63, so I'll be back in the game again with another T myself soon.
     
  13. M.Edell
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    Beat me to it!!:D
     
  14. fordcragar
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    from Yakima WA.

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    from Yuma, AZ

  16. gas pumper
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    Here's three lives of a T on A rails.
     

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  17. Got to love the y block.
     
  18. Some ideas here. The last two are the same car, but the shots (forgive the 'surfers') show that Model A frame can work really well under the later T bucket.
     

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  19. thewishartkid
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    My T is on an A frame.
     

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  20. Not a Bucket... But a T Roadster on a complete Model A chassis as well as the photo of the Model A it came from!
     

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  21. johnny bondo
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    heres mine, saved it from a horrible rat rod death!

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    ill try to get updated pics tomorrow.
     
  22. Retrorod
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    Flower put her "T" body on 1930 "A" rails.

    Flower's truck1.jpg
     
  23. need louvers ?
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    T-Time - You are right, I was wrong on Royal Shifters car. The article I have does state that it is on a boxed "T" frame.
     
  24. This is exactly the project I am on. I have sooo many questions, but will first search the forums for answers. Keep the pictures coming!
     
  25. bct
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    here is my touring on an A frame and a roadster
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  26. bct
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    the beauty of the A frame is there is 3 or more wheel base options using all ford parts and not having to cut the frame....
     
  27. Really? Do tell... :eek:
     
  28. need louvers ?
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    I think he is talking about where you place the rear spring during your build. It can be placed above the rear axle which is stock and gives a 103'wheel base. Using a '37-'48 rear end with the perches in it's natural position reduces that by 7.5". Flipping the perches to the front will yield an increase to 110.5". It actually could be worked several different ways with different year parts to come up with lots of different wheelbases.
     
  29. bct
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    exactly .....
     
  30. need louvers ?
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    Exactly! Edit, Let me throw a personal opinion out there connected to this thread. I love the first batch of buckets that were built, as a matter of fact, most that know me would shake their heads and call me obsessed. Commonly the first batch were built on model A frames, but in my OPINION, you end up cutting so much of the frame up to get the stance and wheelbase right, that you would be further ahead to start with a well thought out custom frame for your project. That, and I firmly believe in leaving usable eighty year old parts in the gene pool for those that truly need them. I personally don't like allot of the T bucket frames on the market because they have a bad case of the "seventies". That is why I suggested a custom frame in one of my first posts. And having built a "kit car" type T many years ago is what started this obsession with the early cars. Why didn't mine look like Ivo's? It can be solved with proper planning...
     
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