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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by YOUNGBLOOD HAWK, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
    Joined: Aug 3, 2010
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    YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
    Member
    from MS

    need help guys
    have a 46 ford weekend cruiser/moonshiner
    w a 50 model v8 engine
    bored /stroked to 295 inches
    isky 88
    navarro heads, navarro 4b intake
    395 holley
    reds headers/electric cutouts
    davis performance electronic dizzy
    ross forged pistons with 7 cylinders at 170# and 1 at 70 after
    the little problem with the electric fan relay

    while i am fixing the got hot boo boo, i want to change cams out as well .because of the extra inches ,the isky has almost no noticable lope at idle.
    and i need to sound goood
    dont want wild radical just attention getting 30/30ish thump
    performance not as important as dependability and aggressive sounding idle
    any suggestions on a cam without excessive lift,spring pressures, etc
    i have definately plenty of compression to bleed off
    comp thumper maybe
    very few flatheads around here ,almost none hot rodded ,to listen to
    thanks
     
  2. blown49
    Joined: Jul 25, 2004
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    blown49
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    You might want to consider an Isky 400JR.

    Jim
     
  3. motorhead748
    Joined: Apr 23, 2007
    Posts: 70

    motorhead748
    Member

    I have a L 100 from cam techniques (I think) In my 284. I cant imagine wanting anything much lopier. I t runs good with the only problem being it wont chug along in high gear under about 30 mphi.
    i should stil hve the cam card which would more info if your interested.
     
  4. willymakeit
    Joined: Apr 13, 2009
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    willymakeit
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    Unusal name. Remember the book.Welcome aboard.
     
  5. Pete1
    Joined: Aug 23, 2004
    Posts: 2,262

    Pete1
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    from Wa.

    The 400 jr and L100 are too much cam for what you want.
    Try a 1007B...Excellent mid range and lopey idle.
     
  6. tripleduece
    Joined: Jan 29, 2007
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    tripleduece
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    I had isky's "3/4" cam. at the time is was one step below the 400....
    Sounded GREAT and good mileage...
    but that was on a stock stroke with bored holes...if I was stroked I probably would have went 400 jr = "full race"
     
  7. '46SuperDeluxe
    Joined: Apr 26, 2009
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    '46SuperDeluxe
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    from Clovis, CA

    I just saw in a magazine that Comp has a thumper for flatheads. At first they only had 'em for sb fords an chevys, now they got them for some vintage stuff. Usually offered in 2 flavors= bad*** and badderbad***. Look on YouTube for some sights and sounds of Thumprs, they have that certain something that I think that you are looking for. I think there is one on there of a flattie with the Isky 400jr also
     
  8. George G
    Joined: Jun 28, 2005
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    George G
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    Literio L 100
     
  9. Atwater Mike
    Joined: May 31, 2002
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    Atwater Mike
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    I also remember the book. Don't 'pad' the second one, Youngblood...(book-familiar insider's joke)

    Try and beware of the 'modern, computer-designed' cams. Last one I built (3/8"X3/8" 296)
    went into a '40 Ford tudor sedan. The owner had a "new grind", an Isky 'pro-something or other. Talk about taming the wild beast!

    After break-in, I replaced it with a Weber F2. Wham! Snap! Zowie! Now it had power...
     
  10. YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
    Joined: Aug 3, 2010
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    YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
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    from MS

    thanks for the replies



    what book
     
  11. jsalzer
    Joined: Jul 31, 2010
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    jsalzer
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    I posted the results of a build-up of a 49 Merc with an L100 the other day, with a dyno sheet and complete specs. Search for L100 and the data is there, but the short stroke is that the L100 works great on a 276-incher and should work even better on your big motor.
     
  12. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    alchemy
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    Where do youse guys get Litterrio L100 cams? I read lots of good about them.
     
  13. Ebbsspeed
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  15. fiveohnick2932
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    from Napa, Ca.

    Potvin:

    3/4 .329 lift 256 duration
    super 3/4 .357 lift 270 duration
    3/8 .375 lift 270 duration

    Schneider:

    260F .326 lift 260 duration
    260F-1 .355 lift 260 duration
    270F .365 lift 270 duration
    270F-1 .395 lift 270 duration

    Isky:

    400jr .400 lift 258 duration

    My opinion on flathead cams is "open the valve as far as you can" because with all the turns the air and exhaust have to take through those (less than ideal) ports getting the valve out of the way could only help. Everyone says for the street you want a lower duration than a race cam. So with my lift theory and the standard rule of thumb for duration I would go with the Isky 400jr. After talking with some folks about their 400jr cams they all say its fine on the street and has good power, not to mention the killer sound! One of they guys I talked to was running a 239 and said bothe low end and top end power were great. The potvin 3/8 sounds cool as well and the few guys Ive talked to about it say it has good power. Have not heard any Schneider cams but I would say the 270F would be similar those cams.

    FYI: Some of these specs came from Flathead Jacks online catalog (of which I dont order from because he was an a## hole to me when I was about 16. I saw him at a goodguys show and wanted to get a catalog from him and talk flatheads with him for a second and he told me I had to bring my Dad over if I wanted a catalog!)
     
  16. YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
    Joined: Aug 3, 2010
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    YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
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    from MS

    this is fun
    have been somewhat surprised how much the extra inches calmed my
    isky 88 idle even with probably 10-1 compression which was kinda unintended
    would love to see specs on the L100
    thanks
    HAWK
     
  17. The Potvin 3/8 is one heck of a good cam -- just put one from 'Pete' in a 276 cube motor . . . has a nice/rough idle and really pulls well. Has tons of torque, which is really good for a street engine.

    Hard cam to beat in my opinion.
     
  18. jsalzer
    Joined: Jul 31, 2010
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    The company that ground my L100 is Cam Techniques in Sarasota, Florida. The gent who owns it is Dave Generous, and the phone number is (941) 727-5552. Dave is very knowledgable and easy to work with; been doing this for a long time.
     
  19. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Flat Ernie
    Tech Editor

    Here's what I have for the L100:

    LIFT: .375"
    DUR: int 270* exh 260* (246* & 238* @ .050")
    LSA: 112*
    CL: 108*
    LASH: .016"
     
  20. YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
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    YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
    Member
    from MS

    from what ive read here
    after listening to to a bunch of youtube clips
    guess im down to
    L100
    isky 400jr
    3/8 potvin
    ???
     
  21. Pete1
    Joined: Aug 23, 2004
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    from Wa.

    The 1007B has something none of those other cams have.
    A higher rate of lift.
    This equals more mid range power where you need it with a street engine.

    "Been in the cam business 59 years"
     
  22. One thing is for sure . . . I'd trust Pete with my 'CAM Life' :rolleyes: If he recommends the 1007B, you can bet it will be an excellent choice for your particular combination.
     
  23. YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
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    YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
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    from MS

    sold
    ill be calling Cam Techniques Monday morning
    thanks
     
  24. CAM Techniques makes the L100 - which is a great cam . . . Pete is not with CAM Techniques - he has his own company and he is more than a pleasure to work with!
     
  25. YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
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    YOUNGBLOOD HAWK
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    from MS

    oops
    its obvious im new i guess
    without a company being mentioned thought
    1007b was a variant of L100
    sorry Pete
    hope we can talk soon
     
  26. Pete1
    Joined: Aug 23, 2004
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    Pete1
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    from Wa.

    "oops
    its obvious im new i guess
    without a company being mentioned thought
    1007b was a variant of L100
    sorry Pete
    hope we can talk soon"

    Commercial soliciting is frowned on here on this forum
    but I will be glad to talk to you by email.
    Just click on my name above my avatar..
    Pete
     
  27. fiveohnick2932
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    fiveohnick2932
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    from Napa, Ca.

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