Miller 140 vs Lincoln 140 & Hobart 140 , which one is better ?

I am looking at these 2 welders ,a Miller 140 & a Lincoln 140 . I need the 110v so I can take to anyone's house to weld . Everyone has 110v in their garage but not everyone has a 220v , like me for now . I also need it to weld frame work when necessary but do mostly sheet metal and patch work . I am talking about fixing a frame not building one from scratch .

I need to know about the Miller 140 from everyone that has one and is it worth the extra money over a Lincoln 140 ? A Miller 140 is about $670 and a Lincoln 140 is $525 . I am very low on money and really don't have much to spend . I also have looked at the Hobart 140 and that is about $470 . I understand Hobart is made by Miller , is this correct ?
Will these welders work good for me on what I need to weld ?

I did take a look at a Miller 140 yesterday and can tell you that Miller is a high quality machine . All metal insides and not plastic like everyone else's .
Let me know your input on these welders both good and bad .

Jim
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I like Miller, But all good quality machines.

 

I am not familiar with 110 volt machines ... I do have a Hobart Betamig 200 (220 volt) that I have had for must be 20 years and I have never had a problem with it. Although all the stuff on the market (from any manufacturer) might be Chinese **** now. Just saying I am more than pleased with my Hobart product.

 

I have a Hobart 140 and I am happy with it. Good Machine.

 

I have a Miller and would not own anything else!

 

I have a Lincoln 140 and am quite happy with it so far.

 

I have a miller 140 and don't care for it ,I would not weld any critical parts with it it just doesn't burn in worth a **** it's ok for sheetmetal but thats it.I woyuld get a 220 welder if I was you.

 

I prefer Miller most of the time but couldnt p*** up the deal on a Hobart Handler 140 that I bought a few months ago. They are made by Miller and they do come with a Miller gun/lead. I have used mine to do some frame repairs on my girlfriends Jeep CJ-7 and I am very happy with it. I have been using it with flux core wire only so far. From the few times I have used it, I would say it works great for 3/16" and down material. It can be used effectively on 1/4" thick material with flux core wire and good prep/pre-heat and technique.

For your intended use I think it would be a great choice and should serve you well. Plan on using it with solid wire and C25 gas for your sheet metal work. The Handler 140 does come with gauges. You just need the bottle and solid wire.

Andrew

 

Got a Hobart 160, pretty happy with it so far. No frame work yet....

 

I have a miller 140 I do care for it. But I wouldn't weld any critical parts with ANY 110volt welder. That's just my opinion and you know what they say about those....

 

i had a hobart and wasn't impressed at all, even with sheetmetal. I have used the small Lincolns and they aren't that bad, I have used bigger miller mig and tigs and they are good never used a 110 miller.

If I had to get a 110 welder I would get the lincoln but I would REALLY insist on saving up and buying a used 220

 

hey dude last time i gotta part for my hobart the repair man said its built by miller just a lower line i have a iron man 220 says will weld up to 1/2 inch , we got a 110 unit at work and its great for sheetmetal and frame repair id save the loot and getta hobart for what your doing.

 

I have had a Miller 140 for several years now and I can tell you the machine is basically bulletproof. All I have done is run wire through it and fill my gas bottle.

I used 2 .023 tips while going through 2 - 11lb. rolls of wire and 2 80 cubic foot bottles of C25 gas.

It welds like a lot of bigger machines and is a great machine.

For me as a professional welder there is only one choice for any home machine, Miller Blue all the way.

 

i have a miller 140 set up to do just my sheet metals, 023 wire
and a 210 to do more structure stuff.

Ive had a Hobart, and as mentioned its basically just a entry level miller.

 

I used to be a snap on dealer. the hobart was the one i saw the most for a 110 unit in body shops. best for sheet metal, that kind of thing. Also, the Hobart is made in the USA.
As I recall, neither the miller nor the Lincoln was US made. You can add a spool gun to the Hobart as well. The hobart is the one I ended up buying.

 

I bought a Hobart 140 a couple months ago. Hobarts share alot of parts with Millers like the trigger, it isn't close to a Miller, it is, has Miller stamped in it. I've welded with other machines, and while the Hobart 140 is far from the best, it's bang for your buck aspect shouldn't be overlooked. I paid around $350.00 for mine at TSC on sale.

 

I have a Hobart 140 handler that I keep on my work truck for use at work. I have had no issues and its about three years old. I drag it around some ****py work sites and weld up unistrut and make small brackets and such.Great unit for that kind of stuff. as well as sheet metal. I used it once for some light duty frame work and will say this, ITS NOT A GOOD IDEA. gas or flux cored it just doesnt cut the mustard. I have been welding for along time and should have known better. It just doesnt have the duty cycle it needs to perform well.(for frame work) but great for evrything else. Save your money and get a 220 unit at least and put a 220 circuit in your house if you can. Make your buddies come to you to help them out.Trust me they will.

 

Another vote for miller. I've had mine 10+ years and zero problems, and always does the work i need it to do.

It will handle just about anything automotive, and it can make you a better welder than you really are.

 

My nephew has a Hobart 140 he got a garage sale for $100.00, works good on sheet metal for a 110V unit when you use the solid wire with gas.

Miller bought Hobart a few years ago, making Hobart their "entry level" brand. Just like Snap-on has BluePoint.

 

I have 2 Millers- including a 140.
Good machine, built like a tank.

 

Actually I wouldn't waste my time & money on ANY 110 machine. For just a few bucks more, you can have the option of more power & better performance by buying the 220 models.
Patching a frame is only putting off the inevitable, it needs to be done right----The first time.
Welding since 1951----------Don

 

People that are suggesting the 220v units apparently did not see what the OP listed as his intended uses..

He is going to use it in other people's garages where 220v will not always be available, and will be used mostly for sheet metal. The 140 will handle 3/16" just fine using flux core wire... the duty cycle is what will limit how much heavy welding you can do.

 

Airgas sells the miller 211 model for 950$ out the door, and you can use it on both 110 or 220..... It has the 2 plugs!!

 

Good friend of mine has both a 110V, and a 220V, Lincoln, both with gas. He used the 110V unit to do the spring pocket kit on a 55 Chevrolet ch***is. NO problem at all, and I thought he was using the 220V. I'm still stuck with my Sears Craftsman buzz box arc welder I bought used 35 years ago. Butch/56sedandelivery.

 

I've had a Lincoln 140 for a few years now and really like it for sheet metal work, running the gas conversion of course. I've welded some thick stuff with it but I have to admit I still don't really trust if for frame work so I farm that out. I did have to have the wire feed fixed after about two years but it was covered by the waranty.

 

i know the op stated he wanted to take it to other peoples garages.. is this for work to make money? or a buddies garage to help him with welding something?

dont buy a a welder for someone else, you buy a welder for yourself... if someone needs something welded they will come to you if your a good fabricator.

your ******* your money away on a 110volt machine..

 

Thanks for all the feedback on the welders I am looking at .
Thanks to the couple people that understood about me taking a 110v to do work at peoples garages . I weld up their sheet metal on cars they are building . That is why I really like the 110v welder .
The Miller that you can use as 110v & 220v is really nice but I can't afford $1000 for a welder and really can't carry that to a place to weld either . Yes I would love to have it but wouldn't serve me very well .
I DON'T have 220v in my garage either . The closest I can get 220v is about 12' to 15' from my garage . I do have a guy that has a brand new in the box 220v Lincoln 180 with everything for $400 ! I do have that much cash right now but I am also looking at a 1972 Mustang for the same amount of money . It's really hard to say I will buy one over the other but when all is said and done , I can use that Lincoln 180 and can make more money doing side work with the welder than the $$$ I will make flipping the Mustang .
If I don't but the Lincoln 180 for what ever reason , I will keep saving and go with the Miller 180 . There are some really better things that a Miller offers and is the ONLY one made in the USA !
Thanks again for all the input from everyone and it comes down to who likes a Ford or Chevy just like welders . I still think the Red & Blue are the best out there , but that's just my opinion .
Oh , I am a Ford guy so I do like the Blue color an awful lot plus I can always keep looking for a really good used one too !

Thanks again and keep welding those cars back together !

Retro Jim

 

Started with a 110 Hobart but moved up to a 220 miller. More power is always better. Lincoln works ok too but prefer the miller

 

I made up two 50' 10 ga. SO cords with 220V 50A plug and receptacles and also bought a 35A dryer pigtail and wired it to a 50A receptacle so I can plug into any electric dryer receptacle.