Death of the project car

You're getin ****ed without even a kiss. Fight like you've never fought before. Fines? ********. Sue the socks off of em. Yes I know, from here it sounds easy but it's not. Back in 79-80 the county was going to put **** tanks across the street from our house. Yes, **** tanks. Sanitary sewage catch basins and clarifiers. It consumed our whole family and most of the community. We won. They went where they belonged in the 1st place, in the water works property where it made technical and financial sense. The fight took 3 years and was all anyone in the city and our family talked about but the job got done. Signatures, TV, corporate support, all of it was drummed up to gain the momentum that had county commissioners and executives on their toes at all times. Fight or just bend over. You're being violated.

 

SEMA does a fantastic job, however, it is up to each one of us to pay attention to what is going on in our own 'backyards'.

All over the country it seems to be 'open season' on any and all of our rights as we have known them for years.

No area appears to be exempt. Just found out that one of our upstanding State Legislators here in Nebraska thinks that it's a good idea to declare all your private property 'junk' and have it removed. I plan on getting involved to help stop this bill from becoming law.

It appears that the day of all of us just working on our stuff and thinking that the right thing will be done and we will be left alone, are over.

Sorry for this; not really a political animal, but I'm sick of it at all levels and am going to get involved. I really would just like to go back to the 1950's or early '60's. Things seemed so much easier.

Mike

 

Call an attorney RIGHT NOW! As said before, make the City autobots quote you, word for word, the city or county ordinance you are supposedly violating. Tell your city councilmen and county commissioners their jobs are on the line here! BE VOCAL, but be polite, too! Call ALL of your local media outlets - TV, radio, print, and any local bloggers you know, too! Get ALL of them involved, regardless of what language they speak, because this affects everyone out there!

The City is violating so many laws, including denying you due process!

You guys that ***** about this being political, you need to understand that people's rights are truly being violated here for nothing more than a show of power by those elected and appointed bureaucrats out there that want to micromanage every aspect of YOUR life. They absolutely believe they are part of the "elite" ruling cl*** and therefore have that right to do so. They need to be told emphatically and unequivocally
"NO!!!" ,
and we will not put up with their **** any longer!

 

Fear of "Politics" = SURRENDER!

Perhaps this site needs another heading to cover this sort of increasingly NECESSARY actions.

SEMA seems to do some good if you are a large corporation, but there is no way they have the resources to fight every little dirty deal local ordinance.

Local action is the key here, there is an election coming.
Time to "Take names and kick ***" via the ballot box.
Organize your local clubs, start a club if you have to, join your local political party structure and get to know the people who make the decisions, then work at throwing the fascist snobs out of office.

Perhaps a "Social Group" might be allowed for those of us who do not want to wear our chains lightly?

I have some experience in this sort of action, happy to share what I know.

Here's your first hint for effective action.
All this is public record, available from the county offices.
1. Find the text of the alleged ordinance, and when it was p***ed.
2. Get the names of everyone who voted in favor of it.
3. If any of those who approved this are still in office, work to get them removed, write letters to the editor, call in to radio shows, etc.
4. If none of those who p***ed this are in office try to get it repealed by those now in office.
5. Let all local candidates know that this is a "Litmus test" issue for you.
If they do not support your private property rights, you will not support them at the ballot box.

This is not an expensive thing to do, it will not take a lot of time.
Once you begin you will create some waves and the local media should pick up on it.
Once the media gets into it, be very careful in your public statements, you should be able to use the media to get the word out and gain support.
Always remember, the media is biased toward supporting the type of nanny-state totalitarian zealots who wrote the ordinance, so be very careful what you say.
A prepared press release is a good idea, off the cuff remarks can be misquoted.

 

This thread is useless without a copy of the actual ordinance. Everything else is just pi$$ing and moaning.

 

It's not just a California thing..... its a ...... well anyway.

Hey Miguel, I tried to PM you on what you have. But I have a friend here in town that is always on the hunt for a 28~32 to 34 body for his next project.

I also know a guy in town that needs a T body pretty bad.

I myself would be interested in just finding some of the wood for a 29 five window, specifically the front header and the cross pieces for the roof.

Cheers
RustyNCA

 

California is just upside down. Move and wait for the quake and for it to fall into the ocean.

 

This is just the start folks..get involved or get run over..you cant hide your head in the sand and think "this wont happen to me" or " not where im at"

Ive seen where Mr Highlander lives..you would never believe the *** wipes would ever dream of such stupidity....Glad you won man, that woulda ****ed

it can come to your own back yard tomorrow.
I keep most of my stuff under lock and key..and out of sight and out of mind..

But theres no reason to think that they would never target me or my local neighborhoods..
My entire little township fought like hell to keep a well known Big Box store out of a very rural neighborhood..for 5 ****ing straight years they kept pounding at us..
turns out the property was owned by a well off individual that had people in the townships Gov..and he was pushing his adgenda to do nothing but benifit himself and destroy the little community and small shop owners..
off the toppic a bit maybe but still the same jack booted thug ****..

Guess what..we voted their ***es out after we learned what the ties were, and no more fighting for the next 6 years..its done.

this war can be won..and is worth fighting..get smart get active, and be vocal..
make these *******s earn their keep and make them realize..they work for US..not the other way around..and if they dont get it..collectively show them the door

Organize..rally..fight..and get it out there..dont lay down and accept this intrusion of your liberties..Be American and stand up to the Commie *******s

 

New group for posting this kind of info right here at:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/group.php?groupid=572

Please follow the simple rules! Thanks, and hopefully this helps!

 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that a**** these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

If these rights are endowed (given) by our creator (God) then who would want to take them away?

 

That's exactly what I was thinking. Even so, having spent 39 years in CA and seeing it change, I wouldn't doubt that it's all true...and worse.

It's no different than what has been going on in cities for the past 1/2 century...ordinances are enacted to punish "undesirables" and force them to change or go elsewhere.

The fact is, the rich have the political power; and someone who builds a multi-milloin dollar home on some eroding cliffside isn't going to want his view spoiled by a bunch of old car parts in the backyard of your 2br tract house that's been there for 40 years.

Hell, they effectively killed Altamont Speedway by p***ing an ordinance forbidding the use of their lights because it was a "nuisance" to the neighborhood; which was cow pasture for 30 years...and still should be.

 

Thanks man..good idea..

1 thing..name calling should be allowed

 

I should state - no name calling of the posters! Name calling of the politicos involved - well, that's up to you!

 

Expensive homes in San Diego county doesn't sound too communist to me. Sounds more like a problem with rich right wing a-holes who don't want you around anymore to spoil their new view. Their $$'s are telling the county what to do. Once you understand the actual problem and who is to blame, maybe a better solution to the problem can be found. Unfortunately it usually takes a lot of $'s to fight $$'s. So, unless you want to do that, they know you will either give in and clean it up or move. Maybe a good idea is to do both, sell and clean up in property $'s and then move to a place more sympathetic to other people's lives.

 

Don't forget the rich left-wing a-holes.

 

Where is SEMA on this one ?

 

I'm sure they are getting the call centers established to beg and plead for your money.

The government isn't doing **** here. I have stuff all over the place as do most of my friends.

If you have decided to live somewhere that votes in granola eating *****s, that's your problem.

 

This kind of **** isn't partisan politics, it's usually about a bunch of busybodies wanting to enforce their view of "community standards" on everyone else. From past experience I can tell you I've encountered busybodies of all political stripes. They feign concern about "property values" and the like, but what it usually boils down to is they can't stand to see someone happy doing something because they are miserable themselves.

When I've run into problems with selective enforcement in the past I've usually been able to narrow it down to one or two "neighbors" causing the problem for me. If they have a friend or two on the city council or in code enforcement it makes them feel powerful that they can "throw their weight around and by god get something done about that. "

That's why I moved out to where I live now, we all stick to our own business out there.

 

Why am I not surprised. After all.....it is CA. The home of the freely over regulated citizen. Keep it all over on the west coast please.

 

"I think the OP is possibly being h***led because of a neighbor turning him in to code enforcement. They are not "going door to door". Relax.... "



Part if the problem here in Riverside Co. Cal. is that Code Enforcement uses the Neighbor Complaint to transfer the blame from the County Board of Supervisors to the complaining neighbor.

Victims get angry at the neighbor when they should be angry at the Board of Supervisors.

You can vote out the Board of Supervisors but you cannot vote out your neighbor.

Here property owners on the edge of De Luz, Cal cannot build a House on their property if it will be seen on the skyline from the valley below.

That means our neighbors now own all that they can see.

At night I can see galaxies billions of Light Years away does that mean that I own all of that view.

The self appointed NEW ROYALTY use what seems like good logic to controll our lives and take away our liberties a little at a time.

They say do you want your neighbor to store his old Motorhome in his driveway next door.

And most people say no, not knowing that by giving ***ent to the new ordinances they are opening up the door for the same Ruling Cl*** Royalty to take away some of their rights.

When I grew up in the 40s and 50s if my dad had a problem with a neighbor he had the balls to talk to them face to face.

In those days if someone was a problem people used peer pressure to get them to comply and if that failed they were shuned.

I remember several times that neighbors did things that we didn't like. We respected their right to do their own thing as long as it didn't physically harm others.

Now we have to worry about aesthetically harming others.

That is offending their eyes.

I once heard someone say that if this is the case we should outlaw ugly people.

Maybe make them wear a paper bag over their head or only allow them to come out after dark.

 

If you think this is a CA problem, then I don't think you know your local laws, and should really learn your local laws/ordinances, etc. This isn't some new law. They are in need of money, and this is one way to get you to PAY up. I'm not trying to be some wannabeoridance douche, but if your property look like a mini salvage yard, then your leaving the gate open. In CA, and trust me, many other states, they are operating on deficits, and that means they will p*** NEW laws, like legalizing WEED for one reason, and one reason only. Cash. So, if they will promote the use of WEED, your carparts BIZ is easy pickens for some county ***** inspector, who is trying to save his job. It's not right, but welcome to the 2010's. Every state has laws against trash, junk, overgrown gr***, etc. Just because they're not enforcing it, doesn't mean they will not. I'll save posting all the dumb laws that states still have on the books, but goggle is your friend.
Good luck, and I would fight them on it. I can't stand someone telling me what I can do with my property that I overpayed for. Then again, I wouldn't think twice of living anywhere but southern CA. Yes, the government is a poorly run franchise, might even be the worst in the Union, but it's still CA.

 

California is not the only place that this is happening.

Most people in Riverside County do not even know that these ordinances exist.


These same type of ordinances may exist or may soon exist where you live.

It is like someone in California is getting the plaque you say I'm glad I don't live there.

By the time you realize that this is National problem, it might be too late.

 

Definitely worth looking into. If some dirtbag c&c official is abusing his/their authority he should be called on it and publicly exposed.

 

I think you ment publicly exicuted?.., right?

we dont need these clowns publicly exposed...ewwww
bad mental picture there...{shivers}

 

We are thinking about moving out of Idaho,..... too many californians

 

This $#!+ is NOT new, but the tyrants are getting bolder and more numerous.
My sisters neighbor lost his un-restored 57 Ford twenty years ago in Fremont CA.

Fully functional car, parked in his driveway.
Tags expired, he was unemployed and did not renew the insurance or tags immediately since he was driving his newer car.

Came home one day and it was gone, only found out the CITY had it towed as a "Public nuisance" when he tried to report it as stolen.
No notice beforehand.
Tow charges, storage fee's, etc. prevented him getting it back.

Tract housing is the pits, rural may not be much better if any sort of snob or "Green" zealot comes into the area.

 

This thread is funny. I keep hearing William Wallace (Mel Gibson in Brave Heart)shouting "FREEDOM" in my head.

The righties blame the lefties, and the lefties blame the righties. The rich righties don't want junk cars around and the lefties don't want junk cars polluting the environment.

Personally, I'm glad my neighbors can't ac***ulate a private junk yard next door to me. I'm also glad they can't put their dirty laundry out for me to stare at.

I keep my junk indoors. You should, too.

Flame on.

 

Redlined has is right.

This is not a Left, Right, or Green problem. It's not a California problem either, although it may be worse here.

This is a money problem. The City doesn't have any, the County doesn't have any, and the State doesn't have any. These are not new laws in most cases, they're already on the books. But the financial times will have the inspectors stretching the interpretations to justify their jobs. Payrolls are being cut everywhere, and if you can cite some folks and bring in some money you might just get to keep your job. That's serious motivation to stretch the rules.

Long term, we need to fight these laws with groups like SEMA.

But in the short term, get a lawyer. Make it more expensive for them and they might reconsider. They're going after fast cash, which is why you've got a 10 day limit. Its BS, call them on it legally. Make it too hard for them for it to be worthwhile.

In the meantime, my suggestion is this- if you've got cars stored outside, get them registered if you can. Yes, it may be a PITA, but it gives you more leverage. Consider putting up a high fence to block the view of your yard. If no one can see it, they can't complain. Put car covers on the projects if you can't do the fence (and keep the covers decent looking, you'll probably have to replace them occasionally). Yes, this is all a PITA and it shouldn't be necessary. But if you take some precautions you might be able to avoid the original complaint/citation. Because once they have that, they have some leverage.

 

I have a question..do you have your car stuff on gr***,dirt or concrete??they can fine you for having autmovite stuff on gr*** or dirt and can make you remove it..I have seen that happen around here..

 

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