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Cruise-O-matic questions

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Magnus, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. Magnus
    Joined: Apr 30, 2006
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    Magnus
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    from Sweden

    As I'm a cheap ******* AND a control freak I've decided to overhaul my lousy ****** myself. What I want to know is if I need any special tools to be able to service my schtuff. I've done a B&W or two that was a loong time ago. It is a 64 COM that I'm speaking of and it doesn't get in 2nd or 3rd, or reverse. Any hints are more than welcome.
     
  2. rdtreur
    Joined: Jul 26, 2009
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    Can´t really help you out but I had a ´64 c-o-m in my '64 Merc Wagon and I swaped it for a decent c6.
    I was lucky to find a C6 near Amsterdam for cheap. The swap was easy on my merc.
    Good luck
     
  3. squirrel
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    You need to be able to get it apart, clean the parts, compress some clutch pack springs, and change some bushings. If you have the ability to make a few tools, you should be able to handle it. Or there might be a shop nearby that services automatic transmissions that can handle the jobs that take special tools.

    First step is having good information on how to do it, do you have a factory shop manual?
     
  4. Heo
    Joined: Jan 8, 2010
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    Rebuilt my c.o.m mediumcase 15 yers ago with the help
    of the shopmanual dont remember that i needed some
    special tools and if so i made them myself and it have
    worked exelent since then
     
  5. jetmek
    Joined: Jan 12, 2006
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    i rebuilt one for my 64 bird several years back...no special tools needed that i recall i highly recommend you spring for a new/rebuilt torqueconverter and check for worn or sticking valvebody spools and sticky governor
     
  6. Magnus
    Joined: Apr 30, 2006
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    Magnus
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    from Sweden

    THanks guys. I'm a bit concerned but think I can make a compressor for the clutch packs. I got a shop manual from this excellent site http://www.tocmp.com/ but there's no description of tools needed, as it use to be in some manuals. AnywayI'm tearing it apart soon and will try to give some reviews of how to do it (if I succeed)
     
  7. d2_willys
    Joined: Sep 8, 2007
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    from Kansas

    You mention cruise-o-matic, are we talking about an FMX or a C4. The C4 is all aluminum, whereas the FMX had aluminum tail and bell housings, with a cast iron main case.

    If you are talking about a C4, then the clutch pak compressor is all you might need to make. I rebuilt two of them in the early 90's, and that was the only tool I needed to make. These are really easy to rebuild.

    You say that you don't have reverse, 2nd and 3rd. Sounds like reverse/high clutch is bad and the 2nd gear band is gone.
     
  8. patrick66
    Joined: May 14, 2008
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    I need to jump in this thread to ask a C-o-M question, as well, as my last question got deleted!!! On my son's slightly O/T '65 Ford (NOT a Mustang!), it had a 289/C-o-M, and it's soon getting a '69 351W with an FMX. Don't know which trans it had previously (FMX vs. C4). Straight swap w/o problems with mounts, linkages, etc? I'm not a Ford guy, so I apologize if the answer might seem obvious, but I do need a bit of guidance! Again, I do apologize for the thread hi-jack!
     
  9. Magnus
    Joined: Apr 30, 2006
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    Magnus
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    from Sweden

    It has a cast iron case with aluminum bell housing . I was told the ******s was rebuilt but sat for years, to mý great disappiontment the previous owner died a few weeks ago, God bless his soul, but I think it is a overhauled ****** as all the bolts and nuts looks to be brand new.
     
  10. d2_willys
    Joined: Sep 8, 2007
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    from Kansas

    You have an FMX transmission. I have worked on them but never rebuilt one. Sounds like the second gear band servo piston has a dried up seal. The same for the reverse band.

    The good news is that you may not have to do too much to fix. The second gear band servo is internal, the reverse band servo might be external. In any event, you may be able to fix this in the car. Get a manual and try replacing the servo seals. BTW: You may have third gear, but you would need to travel up to 40 mph or so, and then release the accelerator, which should allow the trans to go into 3rd. If no 3rd after trying this, then reverse/high clutch is not working.

    If these suggestions do not correct the issues, then the reverse/high clutch piston seal is dryed up too, and the trans will have to come down.
     

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