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HELP! Wiring 99% done!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by coolrodz, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. coolrodz
    Joined: Jun 30, 2006
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    newby here and new to wiring...getting the hang of it once you get yer mind right. Here is my situation:
    57 dodge d100
    got a 20c ez wiring pkg.
    got a bank of toggles above the windshield that controls: start, fan, low beam, high beam.
    got it set so parking lights come on when i flip the low beams.
    got the aftermarket blinker setup from Speedway (no hazard).
    issue is:
    blinkers BARELY flicker when on. -update- put the taillights on separate toggle-blinkers work fine until i flip the toggle for taillights-no more blinking
    do i need to put the parking lights on a separate toggle?
    also have a brake light switch from speedway.
    and i'm not clear: i have 2 wires from the ez kit-brake switch power and brake switch-where do they go with this setup?
    and the orange wire from the blinker kit---not sure where that goes either.
    i should say too, the tail lights are for a trailer-have tail, brake and blinker built in.
    learning the hard way...as usual
     
  2. big creep
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  3. xbskt
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    Hi,

    How are your lights grounded? Is there rust or paint where you are trying to ground? The symptoms you describe sound like a bad ground. Things seem all haywire when the circuit is searching for or has a high resistance ground. The flasher depends on current draw of the lamps in the turn signal to cycle. If the ground isn't up to snuff the current flow is limited and the flasher will cycle slowly or not at all. Once you give the 12 Volts a path of lesser resistance, as in the taillights, the power doesn't bother to flow through the flasher and simply returns to earth via the tailights. Probably dim tailights though.
    Can you run a jumper ground to the neg. side of the battery from the lights to see if it makes a difference?
    Can't say where the orange wire goes until I see a diagram. Is it online somewhere?

    Hoope this helps,

    Jeff
     
  4. coolrodz
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    just tried the ground- same thing. its like the taillights are 'overpowering' the blinker. i put the right blinker on-perfect, leave it on and hit the toggle for the tailights-blinker goes away.
    i'm focusing on taillights-easier for me to see. two wires off them-green which is stop and turn-i have these connected to the stop and turn from the harness.brown-which is tail- i have that connected to the tail from the harness.
    blinker setup is simple-1 wire each for 4 corners, one each for flasher L,P which i have tied together into the flasher wire from the kit. and the orange wire not connected to anything: says stop switch in instructions?
     
  5. F&J
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    Not enough info;

    The signal switch, how many wires...meaning, does the instructions for that switch have the brake wire going to it?

    If you only have 2 filaments per side on the rear lights, then the brake "on" wire needs to be split by the "correct style" turn signal switch. What the sig switch does is "changes" a brake light wire to become a signal wire when the switch is moved.
     
  6. coolrodz
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    throwing these in too. on the taillight, black wire hanging is the ground jump.
    thing on the seat is the brake switch
     

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  7. OK, here's a trick I learned whn I did wiring for the first time. Make sure you've got the wire running to the right bulb filament. On 1157 bulbs the running light (tail light) is dimmer than the blinker. Switch the wires on the pigtails, you may have gotten it backwards. I did that the first time and now I check. If it makes you squint when you look at the bulb when it's on, that's the blinker. The other wire is for the tail lights. It's super simple and easy to check. Don't overthink stuff, do the simple tests first.
     
  8. kisam
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    I went through the same thing with the same wiring kit. Then I ran a ground wire from the rear blinker to the frame and then had bright blinkers! Second problem -tail lights defeat blinkers was I had the wires crossed on the driver side blinker/tail light (can't remember if it was the front or back one.)
     
  9. coolrodz
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    checked the connections-correct-but i will switch anyway-maybe labeled wrong!
     
  10. tb33anda3rd
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    sounds like the ground is bad you can't have two many grounds! check that the bulb is the right one should be an 1157 check that the brighter filament is for the stop and turn circuit. you must wire your stop light switch into the turn switch it needs to be able to turn the brake light off on the side that is flashing![can't flash and be on at the same time]. stop lights work through the turn switch. hope this helps
     
  11. 48fordor
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    from York, PA

    With wiring, if in doubt get a pencil and paper. Pretend you're an electron and follow the wiring from battery, through the devices, back to the ground connection. Draw everything exactly as you find it. That makes it easier to see what you've done. If you are following a schematic, make a photocopy and highlight it as you follow the wiring. Don't go by what you think you did, go by what you find as you follow the circuit. Don't ***ume that new parts are good. Use your meter (cheap meters good enough for this are under $10 now) and check voltages - use voltage drops to find high resistance connections.

    Ed
     
  12. scrap metal 48
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    Does the car run yet?? Sometimes with just battery voltage, funny things happen.. Try hooking your battery cables to a good charger instead of battery and see if it makes a difference.. Or if you can start the car, try it that way and see if it helps with your symptoms.......
     
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  13. krusty40
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    Brake switch power wire from selected fused circuit to brake switch. Brake switch wire from other connector on brake switch to brake lights. vic
     
  14. coolrodz
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    ok...ready for this? to a degree-your ALL right. so im sitting on the floor with the taillight on and the bliner on but not working. i'm starin at the bulb and it hits me...ready?...the bulb was upside down! with everything still on, i took the bulb out, turned it 180..and all works.
     
  15. big creep
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    i think you mean backwards, i did that on my ot 69 caprice. glad you fixed it!

     
  16. coolrodz
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    oh yeah...too true! just had to twist it half a turn- i ***ume to correct the contacts. thanks too all for the help. beers on me!
     
  17. 48fordor
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    How did you get it to go in the socket the wrong way? The pins on an 1157 are offset so it can't do that. . .

    Ed
     
  18. big creep
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    when you have big ****en hands like i do, two little pins have no chance!
     
  19. coolrodz
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    i'll take pic tomorrow of it. got this weird holder with contact strip that go vertical with the wires connected to the strip and out the back. the 2 pins were in contact with the 2 strips but connecting to the wrong wires. i'm figuring that each contact on the bulb is connected to one of the filaments. by going 180 with it, the right contact from the bulb(and filament) was then connecting to the correct vert strip and wire.
     

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