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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sdluck, Oct 25, 2010.

  1. sdluck
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    Tried search feature,didn't come up with many options.1960 ford truck 1/2 ton 292 y block ford 3 spd with overdrive,what engines will fit the stock bellhousing or trans and are not to much trouble to swap.Thanks
     
  2. sdluck
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    Little help please guys
     
  3. conormulroney
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    Personally, I would keep the Y-Block and hop that up. Unless of course it was totally trashed. Then I would find another one and do the same. You have an overdrive for highway cruising and they can be dependable solid motors. Plus, they sound awesome with glasspacks!

    Conor
     
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  5. conormulroney
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    Some good information on the Y-blocks can be found at these sites:
    http://www.y-blocksforever.com/
    http://ford-y-block.com/

    If I'm not mistaken, the Y-block bell housing only bolts up to it's self. The tranny bolt pattern may work with newer Ford engines. However, any swap is going to involve fabrication; mounts, cross member/steering interference, exhaust, driveshaft length, etc. There is no "bolt in" option to replace your original engine.

    What are you trying to accomplish? Is the engine there? Running? Do you want a more modern powerplant? More HP?

    Conor
     
  6. stukks
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    You should be able to swap out the Y-Block for a straight 6 223. I think the bellhousing is the same. The other option would be to find a 312 Y-block from a big truck or a car.
     
  7. sdluck
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    So nothing else bolts to y block bell housing?
     
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  10. stukks
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    I have read about people modifying the bell housing to put a different transmission behind a y-block. Not the other way around. You could try asking on the FTE forum they might know some different info.
     
  11. Sdluck:

    The Y block bellhousing pattern is, as has been said, unique...nothing else fits. In addition, the front mount/side bell mount mounting system causes some difficulty because the bellhousing acts as a crossmember.

    The easiest option is, as Conor stated, to find another Y block. You have several different sizes to choose from. I would avoid using the 239 and 256 (too long to list the reasons here) and look at the 272, 292, and the 312. The 292s are by far the most common and are nice little engines. The 272s also work well; the 312s are more rare, cost more money as a rule, and 1/2 the time a "312" turns out to be a 292 anyway.

    Incidentally, 312s were made in '56-'57 only (at least in the U.S.) and were not offered in trucks.

    You do not want to get a Lincoln Y; the bellhousing pattern is different and they are not direct swaps either.

    If you are determined to run something else besides a Y block, you are best off replacing both the engine and transmission and adding new engine side mounts and a new trans crossmember. Again, as Conor said, you will have the usual issues involved with this sort of swap. On the plus side, it has been done many times before, and there are parts available to make it easier, like mounts.

    While it is possible, sort of, to adapt your transmission to another engine, it is not simple, or, (probably), cheap.

    The 223 is not a direct bolt-in; but if you found one in a truck, you could grab the bellhousing and front mount. There are some minor issues to work out here too- for example the six-cylinder fuel line is on the opposite side of the frame of a '60 if I recall correctly- but it's at least a little more simple than a complete change.
     

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