Im building a 27 ford from scratch and the car im working from is pretty butchered. what is the best way to assemble the car as far as floor pans, sub rails and body? im going to have the car sit on top of the frame. i was planning on inside sub rails with body attached to that and then flange the floor pans and spot weld to inside of sub rails- is there a better or easier way to out it all together? this is what i plan to do
You might consider running the sub frame flange on the out side and the body skin spot welded on to the flange once the body is formed and shaped getting the flange bent on the skin and getting all the panels lined up might be a bit of a chore look at how some of the Fords skins were attached. A lot of it depends on how much shape your frame will have the tools you have available and how much time and effort you are wanting to put forth. Just my two cents.
Can't say I've ever seen it done that way. I spose if your "sub rails" or angled steel is thick enough and you gusset the door jambs to a stringer going from side to side, it could work. I think most people build a entire frame (sides included) out of 1X2 and attach the body to it.
i want the body to sit on the frame so putting the sub rails on the outside is not really an option- never thought of the 1x2 i guess im looking for the most common used practice in this situation
The body can still be on the frame, the sub rails are just tucked inside the body. There are probably some better threads on this but here's one with some picks that might help. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222697&highlight=sub+rails+building
does the frame not rest under the sub rail? when i say set on top of the frame i mean a perimeter frame that is to the outside edge of the body- like the modifides people are doing- which is the look im going for
Not sure I follow you. Yes, the sub rails sit above the frame and go from edge to edge of the body. Most of them are made out of stamped channel or tubing, Your picture shows angled steel in an unconventional manner, wrapping the frame, with the floor flush with the top of the frame.
I would not do it like the sketch. It is so simple to do it the way most people do it. There would only be one benifit of the sketch; if your car is chopped a lot and you needed that extra 1" of room that you would gain. The T body should be flat bottomed from front to back, so just weld in tubing framework that attaches to the body, and the square or rectangular framing is flush with the bottom of the outer body skin. After the framework is done, then skin the framework with flooring. Don't weld the very front flooring in until the motor trans is in place. Plan your tubing location so it sits on the chassis frame rails. Also plan the cross pieces to allow room for stuff like transmission, etc When you drill holes through the tubing for body mount bolts, you need to slip a piece of pipe in the tube so the bolt won't crush the tubing. Do this as you are mocking up the tubing to test fit. That way you can get the pipe bushing in there from an end, before welding all the tubing together. I make a slot at the edge of the bolt hole in the tubing, then slide the pipe in, then tack weld the pipe to that slot. Then the pipe will stay put.
i found some pics of what you are talking about, i think and this is what i think you mean, then to hide this i just skin the underside?
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