I lost the ***le to my 53 chevy truck. It was never put in my name. Now that it is mostly restored, I need to get it ***led. There is no vin on the frame or body. I know all the places to look but there is none . The troopers will not do the paperwork needed to get a bonded ***le through the Texas DMV. So. What do I do to get a ***le. I have all reciepts from day one. Can a ***le Service do this without an inspection. I don't know what else to do . Thanks, Hog
if you have no vin then you have nothing to get a ***le for. you might need to get a donor vehicle with a good ***le and transfer all the info to yours. but it may not be legal where you live.
First rule of hotrodding, or owning any car for that matter. If the ***le isn't in your name, do not put a dime into it until it is. If the ***le HAD been in your name, getting a replacement ***le is a snap. It is NOT enough to have "a" ***le, that you can get changed later. Then you have the problem you have, you lose it. Or worse, you find out, after your car is built and ready to re***le, that it was stolen. I do hope you can get it fixed, but it is very important that the first rule above MUST be followed.
I did this exact same thing in Illinois. Bonded ***le. I had a body no numbers, a bill of sale and an after market frame. Never say never, I had not a number. Search Illinois ***le, myself and a few other guys posted on this, it's a bit involved, but it really is the only real way to be 100% legal with out any doubts. You want to go through your DMV, go on line to the services department, call their number and tell them you need to speak to some one in bonded ***les, most likely that any state that requires or issues a ***le will have a way to issue a bonded ***le on a vehicle. They come out and re number your vehicle, and issue you a ***le per that number. Patience, organization, and determination, these will aid you in your quest. If you ever pulled a body out of the woods at a farmers lower 40 that had a rotten frame, this is how you resurrect the beast, any one who ever pulls a plum out of the forrest will do this in a ***le state, there is no shame, just do it legal. If a state trooper don't stamp new numbers on it, most likely you won't be kosher.
Hi reading all the past posts on this subject tonight was a blessing! My Husband was ready to send $1000. out of state to get what we needed! Now reconcidering, and leaning towards the more involved safe way ***ling our no #s/ no reciept, '31 chevy. Bought car in pieces in the'70. drag raced at US-30 with his Bro. then engine caught on fire. It has sat for 30 yrs. Now my husband is 56 and wants to fix er up (with our 9 yr old son beside him...) orig. body, new frame. ready to move forward. So apprehensive to start on the journey of Illinois ***ling..question..if there were no vin # 31, and now no orig motor #...no tags...is this even poss to ***le?
You have to check with your states DMV. I can only speak to my experience with the state of colorado. It is possible to ***le something (here) without a vin #. The state issued me one with a new sticker and paperwork. Colorado now had a rebuilders ***le, I already started the process when it was introduced. Doesn't have the stigma of a salvage ***le, but you can start the process with "most" of a car. I had to have mine "road worthy" to avoid a salvage ***le. I started the process by visiting my local DMV and the state trooper depot here in town who does the inspections. Ask questions, be polite, and if you think their wrong pull out paperwork printed off their website and ask more questions. In the end it cost me about $250 and 6 months.
In Idaho they issue you a new number and stamp and the bond simply last for three years giving the state enough time for anyone that can show proof of ownership has time to do so and they are not held liable for issuing a ***le to you. Really a simple process but they do want their sales taxes. So make sure you keep all receipts to the build. Especially the ones that have been local buys with sales tax already paid.
I dont get why people dont put ***les in there name as soon as car is bought. Would save alot of h***les and useless posts!!!
Buy a historical do***ent from a HAMB member. Like I did. Instantly changed to my name, and had a tag on my car in 10 mins. Im missing an arm though, from the purchase of it. But my car is a 'matic so I can survive.
I agree and it saves a lot of paperwork and issues but in Idaho the state wants the car to be complete and in driving condition before issuing a ***le. The inspectors have been know to waver that rule if they can see enough parts to see a complete car. Idaho has about 15 inspectors strung through out the state and we are lucky enough to have a car guy as our local inspector.
Yes! IT CAN BE DONE! I don't understand the guys on here who talk like this is dumb or an ignorant question, they must p*** on some treasure in the woods. With old cars you can resurrect the dead, and legally too, through your states DMV. I bought a body, no numbers at all, from a yard, the kind you see pictures of with the trees growing up through the cars. The frame was rotten so badly that no numbers could be found. I purchased a new frame, a new engine, trans, had and have reciepts for every nut bolt and screw in a large alphabetical box. Took six months and had to get a bond. You are not a criminal! You did nothing wrong, the people at the DMV just do not know how to process you. You need a Bill of sale, receipts, you need to contact DMV Illinois, go on the site for DMV, services, call them, ask for bonded ***les, they send you a kit, read it carefully twice. Tips: You need to finish your car completely and have it painted, safety legal and appraised to get your vehicle bonded and start the process. Important: If you finish your vehicle you will get it appraised at finished value, your bond is based upon finished value, any possible taxes that may ever be ***essed would be for finished value. To save funds and move the process faster I recommend that you start the process during mock up and blocking process. We all mock the cars up to check out fit and most of us fire them up to make sure they run right and then we dis***emble them paint them and make them pretty, well the pretty adds to value, mock it up fire it up make it right and when you shoot it black to block it out that's what you let them appraiser and inspector see. The higher you appraise the more you spend, all very do able and with out a doubt it will be 100% legal. Got questions ask. If you know the car has been in your family forever and it has numbers and you think you guys just lost the ***le it is an entirely different process and much less expensive and shorter. I will also add that a bond is in no way an insurance policy, before you bond the vehicle consult with your insurance agent so that you may fully understand exactly what the bond is and what it implies your responsibility is going to be, if for any reason the bond is excercised upon you are liable for the amount of the bond. Read carefully.
I live in Illinois and have lost to the state 3 clear current out of state ***les ,once you send it in to them its gone forever period. I just finished several emails with the "lady" that has the finial say on ***les ,especialy bonded. She said Ill is currently flagging all out of state ***les 48 and older ,it must have the original vin tag, or factory stamped number on the frame,be verified by a police officer, (you can get the form at local DMV office) attach a picture of the vin tag. If there is ANY doubt,or further info needed on the states part you will have to get a bonded ***le .Even if you meet those requirments it will still be subject to NSRA 23 point safety and S.O.S. police inspection.She also said they are now looking at Ill ***les 1948 and older being transfered ,as they (the state) feels there are lots of current Ill ***les that arent correct. I have 2 friends that have been going thru the bonded ***le process one is going on 7 months 100% stock Model A with clear current WIS.***le engine number didnt match ***le number,the other 9 months Model A streetrod with clear current Tx ***le,neither has even got to the point of inspection and new Ill vin number. I recently bought a 1964 Nova out of UT. got the ***le back in 3 weeks . There are some that say get a bonded ***le then your 100% legal and its no big deal,I would agree with the 100% legal part,but easy,inexpensive,or even in a timly manner is just not how it is. It is a buracratic,paper work night mare that can drag on for moths. This is just my opinion and experance . And yes I was always courtious,polite,respectfull,and humble when dealing with the state folks,as have my friends who are still jumping thru hoops.I just gave up and moved on to newer cars .
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