LaSalle trans question and mysterious pinstriping

This thing followed me home the other day...looking at the input shaft it looks like something is missing.

Is there a cover that goes here?



Also, check out the art work on the housing. The trans was pulled out of an unfinished 55 Chevy custom, together with a 322 Buick. Have you ever seen this style of striping, or is it just someones scribbles?

 

Guess that is an early one, I've never seen a top shifter, my Lyndwood used a side shift style. I like the striping, someones doodles from the past.

 

Pinstriping ?? I think he was just wiping the paint off the brush .

 

The bearing retainer/collar is missing on the lasalle ******.

It is normally missing because it is press fit into the bellhousing, if you still have the motor and bellhousing it should be there.

You have to have it to retain the front bearing and also for the throw out bearing

They are out there, but a little hard to find.

Also they are not all the same size, the 1937 top shift trans takes a smaller collar than the later side shift, but sometimes the side shift inners have been swaped into the top shift case.


If you are putting it behind a flathead ford, sometimes those adapters take the ford collar.


Cool ****** either way, and plenty stout for sure.

I hope you put it in something and drive it cuz that is a fun ******.

good luck

 

retainers are not a press fit.

they are the same size as the later ('38-'53) side shift

cool score Rolf what are your plans for it?

 

I've been sorta looking for a 322 stick flywheel
I have a nice rebuilt '55 engine,
an old Buick to Cad Transdapt? adapter
and a few Lasalle transmissions laying around

thought it might make a good combo for some future project

 

Dont know much about the trans but the striping is cool, I would try to preserve it. Looks like hieroglyphics, is there a Von Dutch sig anywhere on it?

 

That tells us: One man's scribble is another man's art...I think it's kinda cool.

 

Well, it came with this thing: 1955 322. It was pulled from an unfinished 55 Chev custom, so it may have very low miles, it sure looks like it. I have have to take it a part a bit to inspect.




Well, come to think of it, it had some sort of collar stuck in the bellhousing/adapter, but it did not look like anything that would seal, but I may be wrong:



I will take a close up of the collar thing and have you guys comment

 

Hi Paul...

Stick it in this thing:

 

Looks like you have everything you need!

 

Ha, Thanks Jeff for the encouragement, I am only in the parts collecting stage at this point, and I have other projects that need to be finished first.

Funny how it works, as you get older, TIME is your most valuable resource

 

they weren't designed with a "seal" at the front
although you should be able to find a sealed bearing to replace that one
the shaft has a reverse spiral groove to help move the oil back towards the bearing
there is a notch in the retainer to channel the oil
and you use a gasket on the entire mating surface between the transmission and bellhousing
there should be cork seals at the ends of the gear and rail shafts

 

Thanks Paul, great info, then I may have what I need.

 

not to hijack your thread but..

here is my '55 322, adapter and one of the transmissions that might go behind it
no name on the adapter but it looks like a Transdapt to me
you can see the notches in the bell, similar to the stock bell, that channel the oil
there is also a coresponding notch in the retainer and a hole in the face of the transmission case to match.
this adapter would need to be drilled for the shift rail shaft if it were to be used with the '37
you can also see on the ('50 Olds) transmission a sealed bearing
I wrote the bearing number down somewhere but can't seem to find it
I can pull the bearing and get the number if you like.
also a shot of the gasket set showing the Best number
although a gasket could easily be made using a medium weight gasket paper









test fit the Transdapt bell with '38 Lasalle transmission

 

Cool pics and info in this thread.

I will be 59 in a few weeks and when I first started working on cars through the middle 60s, the LaSalle trans was really outdated. We sat there dreaming of a 4 speed with a shiney new Hurst, but were stuck with non-syncro first gear 3 speeds in our tri fives..

Now we dream of old non-syncro first gear 3 speeds......and outdated motors

 

Is it the rear case bearing that is obsolete and is very hard to find?

 

No hijack at all, Paul. Great info. Do you think that sealed bearing would fit my trans?

I can always work "backwards" starting with the bearing dims to find a sealed bearing.

I like it better than that cork screw groove, oil on the clutch is no fun.

 

yes the same bearing will fit the '37 transmission,
I'll see if I can pull the bearing without tearing the entire transmission down.

 

sealed bearing part # from my local bearing house---

6208-2RSNR ($54.26 in stock)

 

Looks like the same design features that my "Transdapt" for my 365/390 Cad to 55 and later GM 4 bolt trans.

 

thanks, I'll write that down where I can find it.

I was able to pull mine without disturbing the internals,
set it in my press with gentle pressure, just enough to hold it
and carefully worked it out.
do not let the shaft come more than about a quarter inch out of the case or you will be tearing it all down to put it back together.

unfortunately there was no number on mine,

thanks again moparsled I think I'll order a couple right now.

here's a picture of the bearing removed,
and another of a stock sheilded but not sealed front bearing
with it's New Departure number on the inner race

 

I just ordered two from HyperParts here:

http://www.hyperparts.com/wc.dll?ctwp~getxref~1001~1003~1~probrand~1~Bearing~6208-2RSNR

listed dimensions match perfect, picture looks accurate

 

now I gotta find the # for the sealed REAR bearing!! (for my HA/GR)

Thought I had it written down on the same paper as the front, but....NOT!

 

Again guys, this is great. I will certainly order one as well.

A Hieroglyphs expert told me that they could be Mayan characters, but I doubt the trans is that old !!

 

maybe they ARE Mayan, and are an ancient plea to the Gods of speed to shine kindly upon the weilder of their mystical hot rod powers??\

better not remove them--there might be a curse!!

 

No ****...I am kind of a detail dude, I like everything cleaned and painted, but this one I may just have to leave alone.

Whoever the artist is, it has history to it, as the drivetrain was pulled in the late fifties. I will look for a signature tomorrow when I get to the shop.

Maybe a light cleaning and a clear coat?

 

Wonder if the artwork was applied with the case sitting on its side or standing on end?