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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by indygasser, Dec 9, 2010.

  1. indygasser
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    Pick it up yesterday,have a 41 Ford car ch***is,need some ideas!pics please:D
     
  2. chubbie
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    wow is that the picture in your avatar? i think NOT! the car frame should work. you can do most any thing with some tools and time
     
  3. dcwest32
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    41 car frame not same as 40-41 pu,
     
  4. chrisntx
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    but it should work ok

    the 40 pickup frame is different from the 41 pickup frame too
     
  5. 40Standard
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    let's see some pics of the truck, do you need parts?
     
  6. indygasser
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    yes,need some parts! pics coming soon, picked up some neat front fenders also
     
  7. phoneman
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    Sorry i'm a newbe what is different between 40 and 41 ford truck frames
     
  8. okiedokie
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    The differences will not keep you from using it. Good luck with the build.
     
  9. okiedokie
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    Wow, did I miss that "41" frame. Could have sworn you said 40. Me dumb. World of difference.
     
  10. hellonwheels
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    I don't think so. '41 pickup had the same frame as '35-'40 p***emger and pickup. I believe the '41 p***enger is different.
     
  11. chrisntx
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    Sorry
    I have 12 1940 and 41 Ford 1/2 ton Commercial pickups.
    40 and 41 frames have significant differences.
    One of the most dramatic differences is the front crossmember.
    41 front crossmembers do not have anywhere near the same amount of drop.
    I want to show photos of some of the differences in a couple of days.
    I suspect differences may be because some 41s used a 4 cylinder engine.
    I know the green bible lists a different frame for the 1940 V-8 60 pickup frame.
    And possibly the Standard Ford pickup had a different frame. The green bible doesnt say much about these frames.
     
  12. floydjer
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    But...`41 p***enger car frame is completly different from `35-41 Truck
     
  13. Ford made some pickups in '41 and '42 with 4 cylinder 9N tractor engines, but the reason for the differences between the '40 and '41 commercial frames is that Ford offered its first 6 cylinder engine in '41. The '41 commercial has the deeper crossmember to clear the 6 cylinder engines. Its easy to spot the difference, not only the depth of the crossmember, but it's different where the crossmember meets the frame rails. All the other old Ford crossmembers fit up inside the channel of the frame rails, but the '41 commercial crossmember laps over the top of the frame rail on each side. Although the frames are different in some ways, they are dimensionally the same, the '41 cab and front end sheet metal is the same as '40, and the beds and rear fenders are the same '38-'41. The '41 car frame is a totally different animal, wider and longer wheelbase. For hot rodding purposes, you can use any Ford car frame '35-'40 or pickup frame '35-'41.
     
  14. chrisntx
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    Its the other way around.
    The 40 has a huge drop, the 41 looks ordinary.
    I will post pictures in a few days.
     
  15. Hamtown Al
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    IT is the 41 that has the huge drop. It was to accommodate the longer 6 cyl engine if it was used. There was not any reason for a huge drop in 1940 as they only had 4 or v8 engines; either of which worked fine with the up until then normal front cross member. Just my 2 cts. Al
     
  16. chrisntx
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    I may have got it wrong
    I'll look when I take photos
     
  17. OoltewahSpeedShop
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    Yep, this is right. The '41 truck frame has the big drop, not the '40. We have one of each right here.

    As far as the '41 car frame.... That is something I can't say for sure.


     
  18. All '40s had V8's, either 60 or 85 HP (95 HP Merc engine was optional in big trucks), both 4 and 6 cylinder options were available in '41, and the 60 HP V8 was discontinued after '40.
     
  19. hellonwheels
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    You guys are mentioning a different front crossmember which is fine, there were many differences in all the 35- 40 frames if you want to nitpick, but the original point was that the FRAME is the same as 35 - 40. 1941 1/2 ton pickup has the same frame rails, wheelbase, etc. and is in the same family as the earlier cars, correct? 1941 p***enger car is a totally different frame than the 1941 truck.
     
  20. buzz4041
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    41 car ch***is is completely different to the 40/41 pickup. I guess if you have the skills you can make anything work.
     
  21. indygasser
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    just gonna be a beater,with a 410 fe motor just leftovers! cheap build!!
     
  22. chrisntx
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    Heres a picture of a 41 commercial pickup frame.
    I didnt take pictures of all the trucks but the front crossmember fits inside the side rails like all other Fords,
    I have a dozen 40/41s and only two of the 41s have these radiator mounts.
    Was this for a 4 cylinder engine?
     

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  23. Hamtown Al
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    The radiator mounts that are fartherest forward were more likely for the 6 cyl engine as it required the most distance between the firewall and radiator. I think the radiator could be much closer to the firewall with the 4 cyl.
     
  24. mj40's
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    Can that crossmember be removed and replace with a 35-40 crossmember?
     
  25. chrisntx
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    Thanks Guys!
    Is this a 4 or 6 cylinder radiator?
     

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  26. mt shasta steve
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    Just my $.02, The grille brace and hood latch are different on a '41 6 cylinder than the V8 version. Found this out the hasd way!
     
  27. Willy301
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    If he is going to put a V-8 in it anyway, I would think either would work well. Those were some cool trucks!
     
  28. 1941 I chopped and sold.
     

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  29. chrisntx
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    the kid and I are each building a truck.
    mine is a 40, his is a 41
    we are using 46 pickup frames with 1940 front crossmembers.
    I will post pictures when we get farther along
     

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