How about someone stepping up and having a weekly online seminar for us dabblers. Start with the very simplest of strokes and give the guys that don't have a clue where to start some guidance. See, I am one of those guys. I know practice, practice .......but if you develop bad habits early, they are hard to break. Just start with lesson one, something like ...... 1. supplies needed to get started 2. proper care of brushes and cleaning methods 3. layout, design and ideas 4. simple brush strokes that will be used on everything 5. maybe have an ongoing project that someone can follow along with the design at home. Not trying to let all the trade secrets out but I figure that by the time we get good enough to run with you guys.....we'll be striping in the resthome. So whadya say?? A Sat night pinstriping lesson?
The first 2 are covered in the TechOmatic. I will try to cover number 4 when I get home from Detroit.
I completly agree with roothawg. I searched the tech o matic and couldn't find a thread devoted to learning. It's something that I would love to learn to do. Thanks for the awesome suggestion root.
I saw the first two in the techo matic, but I was looking for more in the way of technique and/or tips to get started. I didn't see those in the tech omatic
I'm just getting by myself, but if you guys are serious about learning some basics. There are a few good videos and books out now that will point you in the right direction. Go find an Air Brush-Action mag or SignCraft and there are ads for these. Wizzard has a series and Craig Judd out of Chowchilla,Ca has one for beginners. I've been striping and lettering for about 10yrs and I'm picking up stuff still to this day. It's great to be told how to do something, but totally different to watch it being done. Find a local striper and pick their brain, or better yet just sit back and watch quietly. I went to a Goodguys show in Merced in '94 and watched Real Ralph from Aptos,CA striping at his booth. When he wasn't doing a customers car he was flaming a mailbox using the sponge technique. I didn't see anymore cars all day just sat there and soaked it all in. I don't know about other parts of the country other than the guys here on the hamb, but here in Fresno there are alot of stripers some famous, some not, but ones I have talked to or heard of are very helpful. No real mystery to striping its kind of like penmanship. Not rocket science, but takes a while to master.
...............go here and check out the "How To Files" on the left side................. http://www.psychoarts.com/Content/Psycho_Home.htm
skate fink.... Great reference, thank you. And thank you to tho one's who have been willing to share their art, as I'm sure those on that website are on this board as well.
Here is what I can give, or what I have learned so far.... From Greg (psychoarts) site, Take a one shot can and trace it onto poster board a bunch of times. Then pinstripe the circles. To me one of the hardest things to get down, I still can't do it perfect. Take a poster board with a ruler divide it into 3 sections. First section draw straight lines 1/4" apart. Try to keep the lines straight and the same width apart and same thickenss. Boring but hard to do. Mine look like barcodes. Other two sections do arcs, first section one way say clock wise from top to bottom (12 to 3 to 6) last section arcs counter clockwise (12 to 9 to 6) Once your done with that get another poster board and flip it 90 deg. Do horizontal lines and arcs from 9 to 6 to 3 and 3 to 12 to 9. THEN put it on the wall and do it all vertical. ALSO STRIPE EVERYTHING IN YOUR HOUSE!
yeah, but i always thought the reason it's hard to get information on that is cause they want to keep it a dying art. I love it though.
NO, But I'd sure love too I wonder if one shot is ok on skin?? Maybe I could start a new trend for women age 18 to 35, the thong is already popular, so a nice striped *** would be fashionable right. I mean who wouldn't want VON DUTCH across ther ***, Just call me VON ****!
I think one of the hardest things when people start to paint or stripe is learning "paint constancy". You can learn all the strokes in the world and if the paint is wrong it will turn out like ****. Hard to learn from watching someone or from a book. Too thick and the brush drags ... too thin and the paint bleeds and the it is all over the feral and your hands. The other part that makes this skill a bit tuff is the weather (sun, temp, wind, humidity ) type of and how old the paint is and the painting surface will all change if and how much you thin. As far as the actual painting goes ... mastering the long straight constant lines are the hardest ... for me the boredom kicks in about the 2' mark. Then add a parallel line ...... I'm ready ta start looking for the gun ....
Buy a brush, get some paint, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice and when you think you've made it, practice some more. You'll learn it by doin' it.
Practice straight lines ,make Money and worry about the other **** later!!! As far as all the other stuff goes,My advice to anyone would be to NOT measure,dont use grease pencils for a center line or pre sketching design work and avoid using grids to practice. Most of the kings that I know of just walk up to the car and let it rip. The only aid that I could make a case for is a peice of 1/4 tape to hang your finger on for straight lines. As far as my brushes go I never trim them and dont really take any measures to preserve them because I love it every time another hair falls out. Just squeeze all the paint out of emwhen ever your done. As far as ideas for design go,spend years walking around looking at the work of the people who you think are the best,technically and artistically,then develop a style that weaves around all of them as to not pick up their style while remembering what you thought made them great and aim for the top! I dont know but I wonder if anyone ever gained anything from a book.
here some of the how to's. I think they are Ian and Ray http://www.psychoarts.com/Content/Psycho_How_To.htm
Good idea, Roothawg. I've been teaching myself striping on and off for a couple years now, and am always looking to pick up any new info. that could improve my skills. Maybe I'm just out of it [I have been acused of that], but I didn't realize there were many stripers around here. Von Scott, do you stripe for a living, or just as a hobby?
Hobby, that's why I still **** after 10yrs,lol. I crawl under houses for a living. Finding termites, trying not to find any rats. Live ones anyway.
There has NEVER been another time in history where it has been easier to get information on Pinstriping,than right now. Start by reading the info on Pinstriping in the TechOmatic, then searching the HAMB archives for "Striping" and "Pinstriping", then read ALL the archives on all 3 of these boards dedicated to just Pinstriping: Ray's Yahoo board: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/pinstriperspage/ Autoart Magazine board: http://disc.server.com/Indices/65186.html Pinstriper.com board: http://disc.server.com/Indices/39691.html That should keep you very busy for a while. 99.% of questions a beginner is going to have will have been covered there. Study designs in the HAMB Friday Art Show, and in the Pinstriper's Hall of Fame on www.mackbrush.com And follow NeoDutch's excellent advice.
Nah, man we're trying desperately to stop it from fading away. I'm running pinheadlounge.. and there's so much striping on there, it'll make you wanna plotz. That PDF on psychoarts' site is becoming a bible to us new guys.. after a while, you just start getting the hang of it and designs flow a lot better. At first I couldn't tell inexperienced striping from pro striping, but holy is there ever a spectrum of quality out there. It's a really exciting art form because it's just so immediate and off the cuff.. check out some of this background material http://www.pinheadlounge.com http://www.pinheadlounge.com/links ->Yahoo Group, Old Timer's pages etc. http://www.letterville.com http://www.pinstriper.com -> Forum that should supply you with more than a weeks worth of reading -Richard
Excellent thread! And the Psychoarts how tos are great. I'd certainly be interested in the "#4" tips on different strokes to use. So far I have perfected one stroke which I call "Shaky and Inconsistent" but I'd like to add more to my repertoire. I've been doing most of my practicing on gl*** - cheapo picture frames. Grid paper for a lot of it. Also I've printed photos and traced them to get line drawings of a couple cars I like. The curvy cars seem like good practice to me. The latest was a Shelby Cobra. Tracing the circles around the headlamps is a challenge. Anyone ever looked at those Big Daddy Roth books (pamphlets?) on how tos? Mooneyes sells them like $5 each. They look like xeroxed leaflets maybe.
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