The Coolest Wagon!

Now that the Vicodin has taken effect, I am able to comprehend that you were talking about the MOST coolest wagon, and leadsleadolds was talking about the coolest wagon.

What black one?

Mutt

 

LOL that **** is funny,Mutt.the first black wagon..maybe you should visit Walgreens and buy some of them .025mm reading gl***es too..

 

Even this wagon is cooler than that black thing, and it's been rotting in a field since 1966 with no motor. 1960 Chrysler New Yorker. Dig those fins -

I need to come up with a solid 63-64 wagon for pans and rear frame for this one of these days. Missed a big hole in one of the rails in the back... figured for $50 I couldn't go wrong, though, if I don't stash it somewhere it's just going to end up on a boat to ******** china - shredded in a million pieces -

 

That will indeed be a cool wagon. If it was a 61 it would be contender for coolest Those were the ones with the canted headlights right 61.

 

Saw it on the bay the other day, and my first thought was 'Someday this thing will be in OSR'. I like the concept- been thinkin' for awhile that a chopped '53-'54 wagon would be interesting with a chop- but it's too damn rough for what he's asking. There's just too much **** that I'd want to go back and change.

I'm not going to talk any **** on the guy personally. He may well be an up and comer- chopping a that wagon couldn't have been easy and the proportions came out okay- but he needs to learn that details are important. I dig a good beater, but the key to making one is knowing when to cut corners and when to buckle down and do it right.

 

Wagons are for clowns...

 

The windsheild looks like **** (not just the lexan, but the whole surround looks out of proportion) the big removeable roof section looks like a cop-out, a cloth sunroof like the old vw bus ones would fix the same roof problems but would look like it was planned. If I squint I do think the amount of chop looks good, I like the rear slant like that.

 

That Pontiac rocks. The colors are dead on for me.

 

Its Rough, but has potential. I like it.

 

Finally someone understands the whole wagon movement..

Me, I wanted one because they are part of my heritage.. My family rode one across the plains in the mid 1800's. Both mine and theirs had about the same roof crown/height.

 

rat rodder..

is this the gas tank? and the top of the rear axle that I see..


i can't see this thing being safe to drive across the street... let alone across town.. it appears that the tank is vented to the p***anger compartment.

think safety..

 

Always appreciate a good pic Glen. Hell, that's a tasty Merc.

Cheers.

Koops.....

 

As I have built a '51 Chevy, I see a few things that worry me extensively:
The Nova sub was narrowed?!?!
YIKES!!!!
This is something that should never be done, as it implies welding steering components and alignment problems in the future. Not to mention the thought of the subframe splitting as you roll on down the highway.
'A' and 'G' body GMs are plentiful AND fit without ANY modification; narrowing a Nova smacks of using what you have laying around rather than actually building it correctly.

Next, the brake master cylinder mounted to the firewall.
Is this braced?? The stock firewall is NOT strong enough to take the bending stress of supporting a brake master AND the pressure needed to bring this to a stop under panic conditions.
I supported mine with heavy angle from the top of the dash to the break in the toe board from the inside (this one might have been as well, but the access panel has not been welded, so I doubt it), as well as mounting the pedal drop to both the firewall AND the dashboard. Then I panic-stop tested it. It was good, no movement at all (visually checked before and after road testing.

Finally, what has been done with the missing body mount?? When a V8 is put in these bodies, the forward body mount has to be cut out, and must be replaced, or body sag and stress cracking will result.
Where is it??

Cosmo

 

Boones-one of if not the coolest......without further adoo


Mootz

 

im a fan of this body style:

 

Lou ended up shiiping the wagon to the owner last year .. after the build.

 

another kool wagon ....

 

Bradberry thats the one.

 

i havent looked at the ebay ad,but ,from what i can see it looks like a pile of ****,,,BUT...about the narrowed subframe thing...

i dunno,, i know alot of people who have narowed subframes,,(my dads pro street '67 big block powered Nova for one,.. that was built over 13 years ago,,plus others)and none have never had any problems before with any of the above mentioned reasons(splitting,stering issues,etc,,...i guess it makes a difference if you know what you are doing....of course i wouldnt RECOMEND people that dont have a clue to do that....not something you can do with your 110 mig welder obviously...hehehe

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If you have the right skills, tools and knowledge of what you are doing anything is possible...hell, the dropped spindle uprights on my car were made by a friend of mine...I'd trust them over a set of fatmans any day.

Brian

 

The guy's attention to detail is amazing for an "up and comer"... Why, the rats nest wireing... complete with **** splice, is a nice touch. Notice the way the coffee cup and lid are just lying there under the seat as if they fell there... it takes SKILL to lay the lid next to the cup as if it just FELL OFF! Oh, and do you think it is just by chance that the iron cross plaque is RIGHT THERE in that pic? And his neatest trick is how he hid the gas tank and air tank straps... it's as if they weren't even there! (oh wait... they aren't)



Sam.

 

Rat Rodder,As much as this car is a nightmare,I am very glad you posted it . I think yhat the roof heights are perfect and the stance is killer. This toilet is definitely food for thought. There are practically no chopped custom wagons that arent done up in that gay Goodguys style. If theres one trend that I think is tired, Its the whole stock wagon on a rake with polished Americans deal. Who came up with the idea that this is cool??

 

True, very true.
BUT. Would you trust a set of dropped spindles if I just popped by and said, "hey, these are good, my momma just made 'em"??
My point was, I'd say, more in the vein of why did he narrow a subframe instead of getting one that fits in the first place.
It's not like there ain't but a couple Cutl***es left; more like a couple million left.
Hell, I'd bet there's more Cutl***es left than Novas.

A friend had a Studebaker with a narrowed Econoline straight axle in it. Still rollin' twenty years on.
I still wouldn't recommend that anyone narrow one.

Cosmo

 

The reason it is so popular is because its a cl***ic look. Any old car lowered with a rake and shiny wheels will look better then it did stock in most folks minds. Odd cars (anything with a hi crown - wagons, SUV, 40 sedans, etc...) are better left alone and kept in a semi-factory style. A car should have a rake, shiny wheels just look good. It is so hard to get the right proportions when chopping a wagon. In my opinion 1 out of a 100 chopped version hit the look right. since there are probably not over a 100 chopped wagons, that tell me that not many have been done right.

 

Cos, the front cowl legs are really not needed. GM put them there to hold the bodies as they rolled down the ***embly line. The front outrigger mounts are enough to keep the bod from sagging, see how GM changed and discarded tehm in the 55 lineup?

But the car still is crude, which is not a bad thing if the kid realizes his mistakes and know what NOT to do next time. That is learning, to forge ahead thinking you are "da bomb", well, thats just ignorance.

 

Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll blow up. I wouldn't drive that off a clif, someone might see me in it.

Not every car you find in the junkyard for $50 is worth saving

On the plus side, maybe he learned something about chopping without ruining a cherry car.

 

Anyone know what this dashboard came from?

 

I don't care what you guys say. I like it, hell the guy chopped a wagon and it came out pretty good. Yeah it's rough, but we've all seen worse cars than that get alot of mag. coverage(and I don't just mean in OSR). Give the guy a break. If you've got something you've built that has as much work in it and looks better then give him hell. If you don't shut the hell up.