History "204" ChiZler fed info???

Hey guys, been doing a little research on the Chizler....neat car, just can't find info on it's wheelbase...
Anyone know?? Looks @ 120???

Thanks.

 

The Greek had a whole series of FED Chizler's. The early ones were probable less than 100", and with each succeeding car, the wheelbase grew.
I took this photo in 1961 or '62 at Island Dragway in NJ. I believe it was a Kent Fuller Ch***is.

 

The car I'm referring to is the one that went 204 MPH in 1960....
That appears to be it....
There was a write-up on the car in R&K, but wheelbase wasn't mentioned....it did say the wheelbase had be slightly lengthened before it broke 200....

 

126"

 

a recent picture but no wheelbase mentioned on sign.

 

DANG!! I must be old............ that car was in the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago when I was a kidlet................... ALWAYS love to see it even then!!!!!! I think that was even b4 I determined I was a gearhead..........

 

Here's a link, scroll down to the Trend Book article and spec sheet - looks like it reads 104" : http://www.cacklefest.com/Greek-204.shtml

The 204 car doesn't look THAT short, I'm wondering if that might not be the wheelbase for the original car shown earlier in the link. Your guess of 120" looks about right. I'm sure someone who knows for sure will fill us in.

 

I guess the real question is; how long do you want it to be to go down the track at 200MPH...104 I doubt it!

 

I'm pretty sure the first 200+ run was well after the 1960 season. Garlits set the first Official NHRA 200+ record at Island Dragway in NJ in 1964. There were many track promoters who claimed all sorts of big numbers to hype their track and ***ociated spectator counts.
Both Tommy Ive and the Greek made claims of braking the 200 barrier, but without certified clocks, not many believed it.

 

I thought "The Golden Greek" was the first to run 200 MPH in 1960 at Alton ILL.

 

Yeah, I'm not sure Rich....the "204" run may not have been backed up?? Or was later???
Basically wanted the wheelbase it is currently, as the restored car is "204" version. And @ the length I like.

 

Many consider the "204" a popcorn run, Alton Drag strip was no more than a cow pasture back then. Who really knows how accurate their clocks were..... Now on the other hand, the Greek and his right hand man Don Maynard added Hydrazine to their nitro load........so??????

 

Here it is off of the NHRA web site....

http://www.nhra.net/50th/top50/C_Karamesines30.html

 

Hydrazine : Wow....

 

I don't plan on keeping this a ******* match about the validity of the 204 number, all I know is Top Eliminator speed at the 1963 US Nationals was in the 174 area. There were dozens of great racers back then, none of whome could get close until Garlits ran 201 at Island in '64.

This is the photo I took standing to the rear of the car on it's record back-up run that day.

 

******* match Rich?

 

******* Match... Sorry for adding a little to the post Mr. Venza.... As I stated above : "I thought The Greek was the first to run 200 MPH" , however; I was just referring to the NHRA's own site....

 

The 1963 AHRA Winter Nationals in Phoenix was recorded on an LP 33 1/3 which I have,Jon Lundberg (a HAMB member) announced that day when the Chizler ran 214.76 with a 7.81 ET driven by Rod Stuckey as Chris was helping with funeral arrangements for Don Maynard who died in a freak accident enroute to Phoenix.This link has a lot of info on the "Greek" as well as info on the Chizler restoration. www.twotogo.homestead.com/GoldenGreek1.html

 

JeffB2 & Jeff Norwell : Thx for the info.

 

Thanks Jeff....lots of info there.....good stuff.
Damn....104. It looks longer...that had to be a hairy ride....

 

Remember- The '63 US Nationals was still held during the NHRA Fuel ban. Those cars ran on gasoline. that is why the low MPH.

The Greek ran on fuel as did many others. That is why they ran much quicker and faster.

 

Ch***is Research car !!!!

 

I saw this version at Riverside in '60, the Greek just added new tubing to his Scotty Fenn car (still did such tall wheelstands that the Greek parked it, something he almost NEVER did)...the Fuller car came later.