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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mrtexas, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. mrtexas
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    These were sold to me as 42/48 spindles. What are they? Spindle length is 5 3/4inches from the big round flat spot. Gap between top and bottom is 2 1/2 inches, same as Model A.

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    Spindle on right is Model.
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    Can someone post a picture of a 42/48 spindle?
     
  2. DD COOPMAN
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    Not '42-'48 FORD! Almost look like '46-ish Lincolns. DD
     
  3. 296 V8
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    35 - 6 ford - right side
     
  4. DD COOPMAN
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    Almost looks like too much camber (king pin inclination) for FORD...maybe I'm wrong. Measure king pin diameter. Lincoln is bigger than Ford. DD
     
  5. thunderbirdesq
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    yup!
     
  6. 296 V8
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    Follow this link to the photo of 42 - 48

    You will see they are wider were the axle end go’s……..that is because the bearing go’s in there between the bottom of the axle boss and the spindle. The 28 to 36 bearing go’s on top under the head of the kingpin.
    Like I said to you on ford barn …. that’s why the longer king pin you showed go’s with the 37 up spindles.

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=552726
     
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  7. Harms Way
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    Yep,... I concur as well :D
     
  8. DD COOPMAN
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    Sorry! I just went and looked at one of my Lincolns. Similar, but shaped DIFFERENTLY on TOP. Kingpin angle just looked wrong. As usual, THE GUYS answering above are right...'35-'36! What do I know? DD
     
  9. mrtexas
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    Thanks for the great info and a link to a good picture.
     
  10. DICK SPADARO
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    You got hosed, Here is a quick identifier for spindles. All pre 35 spindles are left steer spindles meaning the steering ball is located on the driverside spindle, after 1934 the spindles become right hand steer (p***enger side).. All early spindles to 1936 have 3/8" backing plate holes. 1937 and up have 7/16" backing plate holes. The 37-41 series are usually described as round ones because the backing plate bolt flange forms around circle shape. The later 42-48 spindles (296's post picture) are referred to as the square spindles because the backing plate bolt flange forms a square shape. The 42-48 style also has a taller upper king pin boss and requires the use of a longer king pin. All car and light duty pickup king pins are .812 in daimeter.

    Contrary to what has been posted there is a distinct difference between 1935 spindles and 1936 ford spindles and this is in the length of the spindle snout. To determine what you have you must measure from the end of the spindle to the backing plate flange . 1935 spindles measure 5 5/8" in length and 1936 spindles measure 5 3/8" in length.
     
  11. docsrodshop
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    Okay, now I'm puzzled. I have a pair of spindles I *thought* were 1935. They have the 5 5/8" spindle length **** specifies, but have 7/16" backing plate holes. Now it could be that someone opened the holes up to the larger size or is it possible they're something different? Or am I just confused...

    Thanks!

    -Glenn
     

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  12. Yip they are definatly '35-36' spindles.
     
  13. DICK SPADARO
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    Attn: it is important to know how to read a ruler, Docsrodshop you have 37-41 style spindles in the picture, that looks a 5 3/8 measurement to me and nailhead you didnt hit it as 35 and 36 dont look like that.
     
  14. RICH B
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    The bolt holes in '37 to '48 spindles are actually 1/2". The square head mount bolts
    have 1/2-20 SAE thread.
     

  15. Well aware of that, I was answering the first question with the guy who started the thread.
     
  16. DICK SPADARO
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    Nailhead, Ok but there are 35-36 are still two different spindles not to be confused.

    Rich B, no, front spindles have 7/16" backing plate mounting bolts, the rear axles 36-up have 1/2" backing plate bolts
     
  17. Mart
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    1/2", ****, sorry.

    37 up spindles have 1/2" bolt holes, the brake backing plates will interchange between front and rear, all have 1/2" holes.

    Mart.
     
  18. seabeecmc
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    [/QUOTE]Attn: it is important to know how to read a ruler[/QUOTE]

    Hey Mart, now we know how important. Regards, Ron
     
  19. DICK SPADARO
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    Ok, Ok, Ok, I defer I dug out NOS spindles and measured them, They measure .485, 7/16 is .437 and a backing plate bolt thread measures .485 so the answer is 1/2" because its closer. And yes the backing plates exchange. Now the whole exercise is to easily pick out the difference in spindles so after this post every reader should know the difference beteween 35 and 36 ford spindles and be able to do a visual ID so they dont get screwed when they go to purchase some parts that wont fit. Lets go back to basics, pre 37 spindle, little backing plate holes , post 37 spindles, large backing plate bolt hole and none of us need a stinking ruler.
     

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  20. Mart
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    Good point, there ****, My calipers read under on internal holes - has caused me headaches when trying to turn up parts that fit together. A 1/2" bolt will go through the hole - including the straight shank - if you measure the bolt it will measure bigger than .485".

    Beware of using calipers on holes - especially small ones.

    Mart.
     

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