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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. wheezier
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    Okay boys,
    I'm looking to tribute my Chevy '56 Sedan Delivery stocker drag car I've owned since 1968. The tribute needs to be a Sedan Delivery from the Tulsa, OK or DFW Texas area at the time. Mine's a stocker and will remain so for now. Any old sedan delivery junior stockers from the Tulsa or DFW Texas area late 60's early 70's I could tribute?
    Thanks,
    Tom
     
  2. mossage
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    Does anyone remember a 57 chevy sedan with a Martini glass painted on its side? This car raced at Cordova dragway in Illinois during the early 70s. It usually swept the field. I believe it was a four door hardtop, and I think it ran in m/stock automatic class. And either was or was formerly a national record holder in NHRA. THXS
     
  3. Chuck Norton
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    Ask Ed Wright in Tulsa. Ed had a Junior Stock '56 Chevy in the day. If there were any sedan delivery cars in that area, he'll know. You can reach him at:

    918-446-3019

    The attached picture may well be the last Stock Eliminator pairing before NHRA axed Stock at the end of the 1971 season. This is the final round at the 1971 Supernationals at Ontario Motor Speedway. Val Hedworth's "wagon" was a converted sedan delivery.
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  4. Simon and Biebel
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    I did a lot of bowling in leagues in the '70s and 80's. I watched the ABC TV show religiously every saturday. If I was not home I taped it on a VCR. Craig Mueller was on the show a few times. Once he was the top seed and only had to bowl 1 game for the title. He did not do well and when I saw him at Ton's after one show he was on, he said it was very difficult to be in front of the cameras and try to stay focused.

    Bowling has declined in popularity and the sat. afternoon show has been gone for many years now. To bad because I loved the game and enjoyed the show. I started bowling as kid with my father and we watched the show many times together in the early to mid '60s........
     
  5. paulspanel
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    Hi colesy, That was an Easter weekend (Good Friday) and (Easter Sunday) combo type two day race at Dragway Park - Cayuga ! Thats ' Stormalong' coming at you up the return road, with 'skinny' Joe Warnes driving. They plowed the entire facility for that weekend race.---Paul
     
  6. paulspanel
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    The station wagon (SS/NA) followed the Camaro(G/SA) and after that they had FJ Smith build them a new Olds for Super Stock--- Paul
     
  7. paulspanel
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    Left side guy is Gary Westberg, left side gal is 'Maggie', and right side guy is Gary Westfall. They won the WCS race at Cayuga that year with the SS Camaro.---Paul
     
  8. paulspanel
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    Niagara Dragstrip also ran a cups/bucks format for a few years---Paul
     
  9. P426
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    Ha-ha...me too. Well, not every Saturday but many. Not that this (then) young kid was into bowling so much but because ABC's Wide World of Sports came on afterwards. Who was that great bowling champ from that era? Oh yeah, Earl Anthony.

    Pete
     
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  11. Simon and Biebel
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    Earl Anthony made it look to easy! My favorite was Dick Weber.....My style was similar to his.....outisde shot.....not much hook......

    Bolwing is a lot like drag racing.....one shot often determines the outcome.....thats how I always viewed it anyway. I have some bowling trophys and they sit with my NHRA Wally's....
     
  12. HPB43
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    I'm looking for the Super Stock qualifying list from the 1967 NHRA World Finals at Tulsa Ok. We (Shaker Engineering/John Blackstock) qualified in the number one spot but like a lot of racers didn't keep the documentation. I remember that the list is just a single typed page that listed the 16 qualifiers.

    I have the car back now, completely restored, and race it occasionally in nostalgia events, and am working on collecting old pictures, documents, etc. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
     

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  13. ackjlo
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    Hi All !!
    I'm a newbie here. I've been checking out all the pics and reading text for a couple of days. I want to thank everyone for the great pics, sure does bring back the memories of better days. I have posted on the intro thread , this is my first here.

    A couple of things that bothered me was the whining and complaining about the demise of jr. stock , the heavy costs of racing today, and bracket racing.
    I think one of the reasons is too much, "reading between the lines" of the rules. And the Chevy racer are the worst for that. All the cheater cams, and engine /trans. combo's that didn't really exist , have led to the acid ported heads and all the other expensive things that are done today. I raced a 52 Oldsmobile and anything I used could be bought at the local parts store. The only special thing was headers built a Tubular Automotive. No engine builder, no trans man, I did it, and still do, all myself. In the 4 or 5 years I raced the Olds at events close enough for me to attend, and I won more than my sharepof races. I won Jr. Stock elimintor at Conn. Dragwy may times.
    Someone made a comment about all the enclosed trailers and Semis that are in use now. Well back in the day, you guys who could afford to go to all the regional and national meets, Indy etc. were considered to be "the rich guys". It was always a dream to go to Indy, but I could never afford it.

    Back in the day racing for the class win and then running in the eliminator was how its done, now its bracket racing for the lower income guys like me. I don't really care for bracket racing, but I love to race so I deal with it. If all you guys brought out those Jr. Stockers and raced them, people could see what they are missing. You dont have to build engines on the ragged edge, just a durable engine and have fun. no records to worry about, no teardown, just race if thats what you love to do.

    Sorry for the rant, and I'll probably be attacked for what I've said, But Bring in on, I'm a Ford guy now. :)
     
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  14. X-TECH MAN
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    It would be great if a lot of old timers would bring out their original cars or clones of the day but (No 1) even that is expensive :eek: and (No 2) we are getting old.....LOL :D. We can only dream. I loved going to the M.A.N.D.R.A. races when I lived up north.
     
  15. ackjlo
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    How old is old ?? I'm 71 and race every weekend I can afford it. Bracket racing isnt that expensive if you build a durable car. My father is 93 and he goes to the races with me on occasion. My point is, if you really want to race you can find a way to do it. I got married in the early 70's , house , wife , kids etc, and I couldnt afford to race. So I raced bicycles and remote control cars instead. Now I'm back to racing my Stang again.
     
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  16. X-TECH MAN
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    I was refering to Jr. stockers or their clones. Races just for the old cars. Not bracket racing anything and everything as the bracket races have. There are no nostalgia races like the ones in Penn. and other areas up north. Im 65 :eek: and have been around drag racing since the 409's were brand new cars......glad your still going at it at 71. Which track do you go to. I will try to come over from the Sebring area sometime this spring and say hello and check out you Mustang. Several of my old friends (yes friends even though Im a Chevy guy....LOL) raced 428 Mustangs back in the 7 inch tire days. The first set of cylinder heads I preped were 428 CJ heads back in 1969. Do you remember a Tommy Cooksey who ran a 1969 CJ stocker called "Venom" in Maryland? Jim Morgan (One was a convert. like Bob Gliddens) and Dick Estivez ran 1968 & 1969 CJ's in S/S from the same area along with Dale Shannon who won stock elim. at the Gatornationals back in the 80's sometime. They all ran my cylinder heads.
     
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  17. jakethefake
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    would have liked to had a chance to try your heads on JACK WORRELL^S car,back when . JAKE
     
  18. X-TECH MAN
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    I did a set for Gene Collins Bronze colored 428 CJ box top Fairlane back in 69 or 70. It ran H/SA at that time (10.5 lb class) which is "F" today. He ran some low low 12's (I believe his best was a 12.24) on 7 inch tires at Capitol and Aquasco in Md. I would guess maybe mid 12's for Jacks car as his was a little heavier in the convert. in I/SA. Those were really fun days for me. We could almost afford to race.....lol. I ran a 1969 300 HP Corvette in H/S at the time. I had the pleasure to run Larry Lombardo ("Buck Shot" Chev II) at 75 & 80 a couple of times. He beat me :cool: but I was right next to him in the traps :rolleyes:. It was still great fun.
     
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  19. 69tincanfairlane
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    A few Ford Cobra Jet pics. The second one is of Jack Worrells' 428CJ engine.
     
  20. 57peppershaker
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    Thanks for the info guys. That makes building 1;25 models easier, as they can be built more or less out the box.
    I've got about 20 lined up to do, both coupes & sedans :D. A couple based on real cars from here, Tension & Squirrel Town Screamer, others using various decals I have. The 1st couple should be done soon & I'll post pics.

    Thanks for the welcome Pete. I'm trying to read through it all, but keep getting destracted buy the new posts / pics :cool: :D
     
  21. TMcCrea
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    Here are some new scans from last night. I found some negatives that were shot in 1971 at the Delmar Stock event.
     

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  22. 56sedandelivery
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    It almost looks like air under the Farm Wagon's left front tire! Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  23. Tom, if that was the Fall event, we were there with the 59 convert., O/SA.
    You wouldn't happen to have that one, would you?
     
  24. TMcCrea
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    Don't remember seeing it Mark. I'll take another look.
     
  25. X-TECH MAN
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    Is that the event Skip Asay won ? If it was I was there as a spectator. My Vette was broken......LOL. I remember your 59 FI convert and always thought it was cool. A little rusty :eek: maybe but cool.
     
  26. 56 Pontiac I/SA
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    Mark, I recall seeing a very-nice '59 283/*250? convertible at the 'Little Guy Nationals' (Suffolk, VA) in the Fall of 71. Was that you?

    Really was a tough field at that event. I'm pretty sure it was a 32 car (Jr. Stock) qualifying field. My friend Billy's *newly-acquired (former *Bernie PyLes) '57 283/283 wagon didn't quite make the program even with several very-close to the record qualifying runs. Seems we were not 'comfortable' with the cam passing tech and couldn't get a Lunati or other 'rate-of-lift' in time, so we put in a stock GM cam the night before we left for Suffolk. Alas, the cam swap cost dearly, as the car lost about two tenths ... Billy took it well, but we headed back to Baltimore early.

    PS: For more on my dear-departed old friend Billy Niedergasands, see post #2441 -- http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3853739&postcount=2441
     
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  27. Yep . Joe Santangelo owned the drivetrain and I owned the body. It was his turn to drive at that meet.
    We built the car earlier that year , using most of the parts from Joe's 61 Vette.
    I bought two cars. 1 348 TG, and 1 283 2 bbl, PG...Same color .
    I put the best parts on one of them...Built the whole thing in a week!
    I know, Terry would say it looked like it, but we did get some fresh paint on it for the LG Nats, right before NHRA ruined the whole thing in 72.
    It ran a .42 on Val Hedworth's 13.64 record , at Suffolk.
    That was the smoothest leaving car I ever built, with that Rochester FI.
     
  28. Hoosier Hurricane
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    ackjlo:

    Who's old? You have a year on me, I turned 70 last month. My first trip down a strip was in 1959 and I've raced every year since. I am racing my blown '57 Ford that I built in '71, just before NHRA dropped the hammer on us junior stockers. Ran it in IHRA for a few years, then ended up bracket racing it. I strayed a little from the old NHRA rules, and have managed to run about 2 seconds quicker than in '71. Some of the mods I have done over the years are now allowed, I could nearly pass tech today. I built a fresh block this winter, and intend to run it this season.

    John
     
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