Well, I guess it's about time I get my daughters '64 F100 running again. Quick backstory: the truck was purchased in my hometown brand new off the dealers lot. The gentlemen who bought it lived in town and only used it around town. My father in law purchased the truck off the second owner for $300 because he couldn't get it to start and he thought the engine was bad. We took the truck home, cleaned and adjusted the points, emery'd the plugs, and fired it off. Al (my father in law) was sick at this time, we used the truck to go greydigger hunting, me driving, him out more for the ride than anything. Al p***ed away in Rapid City, SD in '97, we flew out to see him (my wife, daughter, brother in law, and I) before he was gone. One of the last things he had told my mother in law was that he wanted my daughter to have his p'up. My girl was just about seven at the time, so the truck sat at my inlaws. The last time it was driven was around the summer of '98, my BIL and I used it to haul some stuff to the dump, when we got back the smell of gas was so bad it made us nauseous. The holley had been dumping as much fuel under the hood as it had been putting in the engine. She got parked in the garage and there she sat until '09, when my BIL brought it to my house, he didn't have room at his and we wanted to get started on it... as luck would have it (bad luck that is), I lost my house and we ended up moving the truck again! With everything that's gone on, I haven't had time to look at it, but seeing as how winter is giving little glimpses of spring around here I thought I would start planning to get it running again. I've started long dead engines before, but we usually ripped them out of their homes to put in shop pickups and the such. Being as how this truck is going to be a daily driver (for me to drive my son to school and back, plus my daughter to drive whenever she likes), well, I'd rather not tear anything up. Especially since the worst part of the truck is the paint, and it's not all that bad. So, like I said, long story aside, these are the things I've planned to do so far: *swap out the Holley for an Edelbrock 600 that I have (basically brand new, just sitting for about ten years, I have a base gasket and new filter/air cleaner for it also) *cap, rotor, points and condenser *plugs and wires *battery and battery cables (they're kinda funky so I'll just forgo the b.s. and replace them now) *oil, of course *hoses, both fuel and water I'm thinking that should get me pretty well under the hood, what I'm really concerned about is the fuel tank. Yes, I know it should have been drained and taken care of, but I wasn't there to do it, between moving across the state at that time, getting laid off, going to school, etc., it just never got done. I'm pretty sure the tank is empty now... Here's my thought: get some of those el-cheapo inline fuel filters from the parts store, put one ahead of the fuel pump, fill the tank, get the truck running, and just change out filters until they stop plugging. I'd love to pull the tank and clean it, line it, etc., but I'm learning my limitations as a crippled dude, and doing that work is outside of them. I'd like to surprise my daughter by having it up and running without her being aware I'm working on it. She goes to college full time so she's not around during the day... or I'd have her working on it herself. So, is my filter idea stupid? Is there an easier method that I haven't thought of? Did anyone manage to chew through my freakin' storybook to get to the question? (Here's the only pic I have of the truck right now, I photoshopped it lowered with the wheels and tires. Truth of the matter is she's all stock, sitting with those funky stock hubcaps with the reflector centers)
Dude, Drop the tank, clean it out, seal it up... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RED-...wItemQQhashZitem3f07037474QQitemZ270700606580 Not as difficult as you seem to think it is. Replace all the lines while your at it. Worth doing right the first time...
I'm sure it's not "difficult", but I figured if I could get away with not doing it I could save myself some unnecessary pain.
Old original fuel tanks are always bad news ! You can have a good radiator shop clean the old one out or buy a new one . Then replace the fuel lines from the old tank to the carb . Remember all that cruddy **** that was in the tank is also in the fuel lines as well . Then do you tune up and make sure you add a NEW fuel filter . Then sell if it will run . You might have to rebuild the carb , but I would try all the other first . The carb might just need to be sprayed clean . Retro Jim
Hey Rich that is a pretty nice looking pickup..... If the gas tank is behind the seat in the cab it's not to bad to pull out......... Watch for the UPS man... I'm sending you a package to help out with the project......... Bill
If you do use the fuel filter method use long enough hoses so you can work at a comfortable height. We did this on a 78 f100 and got to where we could coast to a stop and be underway in 2 minutes. I do however recommend dropping the tank. it'd just be so much better.
coolant, diff fluid, trans oil (manual?) and thoroughly check the brakes. Sweet looking truck, love the color combo
That house can float away in the next flood for all I care, the bank has her now... and no, it wasn't because I bought over my head, it's because my body decided to check out before all the bills were paid. Hot dang! Thanks Bill... I had to go check to be sure you had the right address, I almost panicked! I'm gonna call around some today and price having it flushed at a radiator shop, it's probably better to do it right than do it quick, as all my quick fixes usually end up biting me on the be-hind. I'll tell you what, you pay shipping, send me something cool for the girls p'up, and it's all yours. Good point, I'll check the levels in the ****** and rear, and yes, she's a four speed. The brakes were pretty fresh when she was put to sleep, but I'll check the wheel cylinders for leaks and such before getting on it very hard.
Hot dang! Thanks Bill... I had to go check to be sure you had the right address, I almost panicked! I'm gonna call around some today and price having it flushed at a radiator shop, it's probably better to do it right than do it quick, as all my quick fixes usually end up biting me on the be-hind. I had to laugh out loud Rich when I read this...... I am going to ship it today so it will take a couple of days maybe the first of the week before you get it....... Bill
Well, called the local (under 50 miles) radiator shops and it seems they don't repair radiators anymore. One fellow told me that the new ones are just too cheap and it's not viable for them. I shouldn't be surprised, but I kinda am, what with us being in the middle of farm country and all. So, rather than haul it to Spokane or Lewiston (because it would take two trips, one to deliver and one to pick up), I'm going to follow some advice from one of the shops and pull the tank, remove the sending unit, put some Simple Green in, let it sit, then pressure wash it out. I'm also going to start looking at what tank coatings are out there, so if anyone has a favorite I'd sure love to hear about it. Thanks, Rich
What size motor does it have in it Rich .....? there are alot of other Radiators that would drop right in......... Hey your package should be there Wednesday.... Bill
Dead gas deposits will sofen up and mix with the gas . When it burns it forms varnish which sticks vavles up good. Use acetone to soak it out.
It's a 292, the radiators fine, we flushed it and checked the antifreeze before she went into hibernation, I just never got around to cleaning the gas tank out, that's what's going to give me my most grief. Wednesday? Sweet! I'll be sitting by the window!
That's something I hadn't considered, I was more worried about it becoming sediment and plugging the filter and carb up... I'll snag some acetone for a second wash.
Okay, I just want to say that Bill RULES! (HotRod33)!!!! When we moved I had a lot of tools stolen, including the majority of my sockets... so, what should happen to arrive at my house yesterday? A kickin' 1/4 and 3/8" socket set! Regular and deep, extensions, ratchets, freakin' cool! I'm about three different kinds of happy right now! In fact, if I was any happier, there'd be two of me! Bill, you are awesome man, I can't tell you how much I appreciate this, it was like a big ole shot of "get up and go" hit me right between the eyes, and if it wasn't SNOWING AGAIN (grrrr) I'd be out there tearin' it up today. So, what have we learned kids? Bill (HotRod33) = RULER!
Rich... glad to be able to help you out. I know all about lifes problems getting in the way of things and alot of people have helped me out, so I am just paying it forward....... Wish you didn't live so far away i would love to help out on your pickup....... Be cool..... HR33
Cool picture Bill! Thank you! I saved Jacob's picture in my album with this guy: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, it decided to go back into winter mode here. Again. Dang ole spring fever struck too early this year I guess. Well, I'm patient and I've got nothin' but time...
Sidetracked by my wife's medical problems, BUT I did manage to get all the junk cleaned up out of the bed and gathered all the parts in the cab. Tomorrow I get to drive to town to grab a water pump for her Chrysler T&C van (I HATE front wheel drive cars!) so I might grab a battery and some new cables, plugs, and points. I'd really like to get the ole gal up and running for the car show in Palouse on June 4th.
Personally, I think your filter idea would have worked if the filter before the pump was one of those element-types that filter the fines. Many parts-store filters do not catch the fine stuff. Since you seem to be well on your way to refurbishing your tank, I will say that the only gas tank coating I trust is the POR system. It withstands all of the current, nasty fuel additives. I have used it many times over the years on rods, motorcycles and equipment and it has never let me down.
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