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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by shocker998md, Feb 23, 2011.

  1. shocker998md
    Joined: May 17, 2009
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    hey guys,

    Ive been in the market for a bigger compressor and just got my tax money back. I was going to go with a compressor from TP tools that was an 80 Gal 19 CFM and was wired for 220.
    I just found this locally, would I be better off with this since its local and a bit cheaper?
    http://eastnc.craigslist.org/tls/2230794544.html
    heres the specs on it
    http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/cptrcp7581v.html

    Im going to be using the compressor for DA sanders, hvlp guns, and then all kinds of air tools. What are you guys two cents?
     
  2. tubman
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    Ad says "Ingersoll-Rand". Photo and specs say "Chicago Pneumatic" (Harbor Freight). That makes me wary right there.:rolleyes:
     
  3. CharlieLed
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    Looks like a nice compressor and it will certainly handle your stated needs...wonder why the seller advertised it as an Ingersoll-Rand when in fact it is a CP? Only 20 hrs use and at half price, seems like a good deal to me.
     
  4. CharlieLed
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    Not true...HF sells "Central" Pneumatic not "Chicago" Pneumatic. CP has been a well respected manufacturer of air tools for years...HF is ripping off their good name in hopes that people will think that they are getting better quality than the **** they sell.
     
  5. shocker998md
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    I dont want to jump on it because its half price, but it does out perform the TP compressor I was looking at.

    heres the specs on the TP compressor
    5 HP, 2-Stage, 80-gal vertical, 230volt, Single Phase, 22 amps, 19.1 cfm @ 125 psi, 805 rpm, Champion Model # VRV5-8Econ, 76"H, 33"W, 26-5/8"D, ship wt 530 lbs.

    Cost is 1500 bucks
     
  6. JimV57
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011
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    I've looked at compressors over the past couple years and did some research in how people that owned them, reviewed them. The best type of compressor for the money is one that is oil lubricated, at least by what I have read. They are far less noisy and seem to hold up better under sustained loads, particularly if they are twin cylinder. They make a lot of air in a very short amount of time.
     
  7. shocker998md
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    right, both of these are oil lubricated and are low rpm runners.

    im just trying to get some direction on if I should stay with the tp tools route or pic this up.
     
  8. shocker998md
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    bump for the night owels
     
  9. shocker998md
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    Bump for some day crew people
     
  10. Igosplut
    Joined: Jan 1, 2011
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    One word EATON

    I canned a IR pump that had NO hours on it (LOUD and HOT) and put a Eaton 10 HP pump on it. Very quiet, and big CFM.

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    Read the reviews, they're all accurate.

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    And I also installed the run-on valve, and the auto belt tensioner (nice option)

    AND it runs at 600 RPM
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2011
  11. It will handle your needs, is local, just about new & at half price of $2100-2500 everyone else sells it for. I'd buy it. Whats the worst case senerio, you don't like it and get your money back from someone else?
     
  12. Bert Kollar
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    The Chicago Pneumatic is NOT Harbor Freight, it is an outstanding unit. I question the Champion 5HP rating of 19+cfm at 125#. I would buy the Chicago Pneumatic and I used to sell compressors for a living
     
  13. 73RR
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  14. aaggie
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    I bought a Quincy compressor at Northern Tools for about $1300. Oil lubricated and 220VAC, 60 gallon tank and two stage pump. It is fairly quiet and best of all, made in the USA. I've been using it heavily for a year and have no complaints.
     
  15. yblock292
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    3 cylinder puma, have had it for over 10 years its like 90 cfm at 125 psi, handles all i got. American made and have never had any trouble with it.
     
  16. bobkatrods
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    PUMA are ***embled in the U. S. but the pumps are cast in CHINA
     
  17. Uncle Bob
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    For running the tools you're talking about it's about amount (volume) of air, not pressure. If you note, most two stage compressors rate up to 175#, where as single stage, multi cylinder rate up to 125#, but are often high volume if you spec correctly. Most of those tools call for less than 125# of pressure. So, spec for volume of air you will use not pressure you won't.

    BTW I'm another vote for Eaton, I've got a 24cfm unit that keeps up with and ahead of air tool use well.
     
  18. swissmike
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    Agree 100%! My IR blew two pumps within a few years and I ended up using the EATON pump with a 5HP 220V single phase motor. Compressor works great now for years.
     
  19. The Garage Journal might have some information about air squeezers.
     
  20. What eaton pump did you use? My old C-H's pump is getting tired, and when it dies I would like to throw an eaton on it - same setup 5hp, 220v single phase.
     
  21. Igosplut
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    Igosplut

    Go to the link in my post and go to the "Bare Pump" section. They specify what pumps can be run with a 5 HP motor. And they have great prices on them. My IR had about two hours on it when I replaced it. The paint literally was bubbling off the heads.

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  22. 73RR
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  23. shocker998md
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    Well I'm going to look at it here soon. If I get it and I don't like it I'm sure I could resell it.
     
  24. swissmike
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    I have the second one from top (18cfm). If you need a little more pressure, go with the third one. The descriptions will tell you exactley what you need for motor requirments.
    Important is that you select the right pulley to keep the speed on the lower side which increases the pump life.

    http://www.eatoncompressor.com/page/page/518643.htm
     
  25. gibraltar72
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    from Osseo Mi.

    Someone else mentioned the Eaton I second that I repowered my old Campbell hausfield used the tank etc. Bought a 2 cylinder from Eaton on Ebay drove to factory and picked it up saw them actually building compressors. After they questioned me about what I was doing the owner told me my motor wasn't gonna cut it he explained the different way motors are rated. Long story short he was right they were very accomodating when I called a month or so later and made me a heck of a deal on adequate motor. Their compressors are very quiet as another HAMBer already said.
     

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