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Clueless Buyers with cash, Firm means Firm

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by roddin-shack, Feb 23, 2011.

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  1. One good thing...he had a 10 hour drive to think about what he had done! If it was indeed his "dream car", he should have been kicking himself for letting it slip away.
     
  2. Lone Star Mopar
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    GEEZ...with the ////****ing ???punctuation??,,::::D..??//:confused:..

    I woulda kept all the extra parts to make up the difference.
     
  3. ironandsteele
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    yeah that's ********. don't get me wrong, i've offered less to someone who says "firm", but i would never, ever not mention it before hand and make someone wait until 2:30 am and then pull that ****. i would have gone ape **** on that guy.

    i had a similar thing happen when selling a 57 chevy wagon.

    i ALWAYS list a very accurate description in my ads, and am very honest over the phone and patiently answer all questions honestly and thoroughly. i like to avoid confusion.

    i listed this project very accurately and talked to this guy probably seven or eight times, emailed him tons of additional pictures of every area he wanted to see and was very accommodating, even agreeing to wait up for him since he had to drive 5 hours to get to me.

    he was supposed to be there at 7, then 8, then 9 (pm), each time with an excuse as to why he was taking so long. finally at midnight i called him. he was very apologetic, and said he was just 45 minutes away. by 1am when he hadn't showed up i called again and he said he was almost there, "just getting off the freeway" i had to get up at 5am the next morning so i told him very firmly, "i am going to line the car up in the driveway, you just back your trailer up to it, hand me the money and get the hell out of here" (we had already essentially hammered out the whole deal via email and phone calls over the period of a few weeks. it was a "done" deal) to which he said "yes-no problem!" and was very sincerely sorry for the long delays-by this point i didn't give a **** and just wanted it to be over with.

    well, about 2am or so he shows up, walks up the driveway, looks at the car, walks around it one time with a flashlight (30 seconds of looking, maybe) and says to me straight faced "i think i'll p***. thanks though"

    i almost fell over. i went ****ing ballistic on him. after weeks of dealing with this dip ****, and hours and hours of waiting, after the deal is already hammered out, he says nevermind.

    i told him he had 30 seconds to get the **** off my property or he was going to be leaving in an ambulance. he really would have been too. i was ****ing pissed.

    people are idiots.
     
  4. roddin-shack
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    The ad said $35.K FIRM, NO TRADES. Your above quote was almost identical to the last statement I made to him on the phone. " This car will not be sold for a dime less than $35.K." I just dont know what cl*** to put him in.
     
  5. caseyscustoms
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    your better than me.

    if i was asking a price and someone came up with 95% of the price in cash and asked if id take it i would of said yes very quick, and not had to deal with selling it anymore.

    but then again i sell like 10 things a week on ebay and i still lose my patience quickly.
     
  6. caseyscustoms
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    heres a funny thought.

    when he said hed give you 2 grand less you said of said
    " sure ill take it, but shipping is gonna run you 2500 now, and i HAVE to deliver"
     
  7. Jalopy Joker
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    when in High School I had nice Hot Rod '55 Chevy For Sale. had another young guy come over to look at it with his Dad. his Dad said no deal at my price-they left. a couple of weeks later they come back and are ready to buy it at previous price. I had spent $100 on car between the times they had been there. So, I said I needed $50 more to cover 1/2 of my expenses. Dad says we had a deal at first price. they did not leave a deposit, etc. I told him no deal. about a month later the young guy comes to where I worked at and said he had all of the money for the car. told him he was too late-a drunk lady plowed into the rear of my '55 at a stop light and pushed me into the car in front of me. '55 totaled-the guy turned a pale shade of white with my story-oh well.
    I bought the car back and swapped the drive train into a '57 Chevy and had more fun.
    ya gotta stick to your guns, even in hard times like now. I have had guys at swap meet try to get me to lower the price of $1 part.
     
  8. brewster55
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    that sums it up.

    its one thing to try and work out a deal, but thats not how to go about it.
     
  9. stanlow69
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    I was at a car show one day and saw a guy I knew with a car forsale(47 Ford Sedan) for $7500. Really resonable. He was talkin to a couple of guys who saw his add in the paper that week, they drove 2 hours to see the car. One of the guys starts layin $100 dollar bills out on the hood. $7000 in hundred dollar bills. In the Middle of the car show on his hood with a small crowd of people watchin from afar. The owner said , It looks like your a little short. I said A Firm $7500. The guy puts his money back into his pocket and leaves. The next day, the 2nd guy drove back to the show (who rode down with the first guy) gladly pays $7500 for the car. He says it`s a hell of a deal and leaves happily. Some people aren`t happy unless they are screw`in with someone elses wife er Life- I meant screw`in with someone elses LIFE.
     
  10. Roadsir
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    Selling can be stressful, expecially when you have something located you want.
    I had two buyers flake on my convert for health reasons, The first went into knee replacement surgery and then cooled off. The second buyer had some serious health issues, I had a down payment and the day before I was to load up he backed out due to a emergency MRI. He was a tough dude and called the next day was de-catheterized and said he was heading to the bank and 24hrs later we were making a deal in a parking lot.
    If you ended on good terms this guy will be back give him a few days, ask him meet your price or scrounge up something worth a few thousand that you can turn quick.



     
  11. willowbilly3
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    Well, first off almost anyone selling something should leave wiggle room, that's just how private treatys work. You should have priced it so you could come down 5%. That being said, he shouldn't have just ***umed you'd take less and laid down less than you were asking when the deal was made, he could have handled it a lot differently It's not worth letting someone else have control of your peace though, that power only goes to them if you allow it. I also don't like people to start lowballing on the phone when they haven't even seen the car.
     
  12. Blades
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    "then try to jew you down" Tsk Tsk Tsk. :(
    A. It ****s that you used that term. You may not understand what it means, even more reason not to use it.
    B. Everyone tries to get items for lower than asking. It's part of the American way. HOWEVER, It ****s that he made the deal then tried to talk to you down. If he had said he wanted to see it first then offered less, it would have been a different story. I have to agree that a deal is a deal and it is the resposibility of the buyer NOT TO MAKE DEALS SIGHT UNSEEN. If they do... they should pony up the scratch they promised over the phone.
     
  13. 40fordtudor
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    I'm betting he had it---just trying to "rob" the seller. Money DOES talk, but ******** still walks. Gotta hate 'em.
     
  14. Commodoreswab
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    If something is offered for sale firm then thats all I need to know regarding the price. Some people like me don't want to haggle, Ill offer something at a fair price and you can take it or leave it. Most people will take it. Of course if a guy like that came back to me I would have a "special" price for him due to the aggrevation he caused me.
     
  15. 40FORDPU
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    A kick in the nutsack seems perfectly acceptable in that situation..oh, did I say that out loud?
     
  16. rooman
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    At one stage I worked at a shop that deal mainly in high end exotics, old Indy cars, early (and sometimes late) Ferraris etc. My boss had a 375 Superamerica on the market (selling for a local bank that had repo'ed it) and had one very interested buyer. The buyer decided to come and look at the car himself and informed my boss that he was bringing a Ferrari "expert" to look at the vehicle. My boss told him up front that the price was non negotiable and the car was to be sold as is-where is. After the so called expert looked the car over the potential purchaser began complaining about certain aspects of the vehicle--missing tools in the kit, a couple of small corrosion issues etc. My boss reiterated the as is-where is criteria and after they persisted in complaining about the car politely told them to go away. The buyer called the next day and again wanted to argue about the price and condition. My boss eventually hung up on him. On the third day he arrived with a cashier's check for the full amount.

    Roo
     
  17. Francisco Plumbero
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    What's the matter with you? While you may be en***led to have your own personal thoughts, however wrong minded they may be, they should be kept to yourself. I strongly urge you to adjust your mindset to one that is less confrontational in the future and recommend you figure out how the delete feature works. Respectfully, the plumber.
     
  18. roddin-shack
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    You are right, in this case I was explicite in the ad and on the phone. The price is $35.K FIRM. As I said FIRM means FIRM.
     
  19. rlsteel
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    I never bought a car yet that I did not try to get a better price on? what a seller say,s in the ad may or may not mean a thing. RLS
     
  20. Some people seem to think if they wave a little cash, that will make you jump at it. Good for you for politely declining. It's not your problem he chose to drive the 10 hours for nothing
     
  21. vintage6t
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    I'm not too sure you should be stating opinions on what is cl***y and what is not. Obviously, this is something you know very little about.
     
  22. LDGn63
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    sorry man. good luck on a new buyer.

    ive had just the opposite happen. (much smaller scale)
    saw the add right after it opened and called the guy and told him i wanted it for the asking price. he agreed and i told him that i was coming with cash and a trailer. drove 2 hours and gave it a brief look pulled out my cash and said lets load her up! That's when he decided he needed more for it.
    i am NOT a violent man but it was all i could do not to punch him in the nose.
    maybe i looked too eager showing up with my trailer... but a deal is a deal and we had agreed on HIS price... almost funny now.
     
  23. LDGn63
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    oh, and i wouldnt even take 10K CASH in person these days... especially at 2:30AM!
    all i need is to be holding a bunch of fake bills while i watch my car roll away.
     
  24. poboyross
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    Last year when I was trying to sell my 50 Chevy here on the HAMB, I had some overseas guys who would message me saying they wanted to buy it. So, I was agreeable to discuss it further with them, but knowing that **** like this goes sideways. Once we got into talks, after they had initially indicated the original asking price was fine, it turned into "Well, instead of 5k, will you take $4700?" at which point I started getting su****ious. After saying I might do that, it changed to "Welllllll, will you also take care of the shipping charges?" What the f**k did you just say!?!? Shipping and freight to the UK!?!? I picked up my jaw off the floor and just said "No...no I won't...in fact, I'm going to KEEP the car." To top it off, the guy started messaging me afterwards telling me about how he got a car he wanted and wasn't interested anymore. Kinda like trying to wipe my face in it or something. As far as I know, they guy's still a HAMB'er. I oughta post his name just to piss him off.
     
  25. Sonny48
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    What you should have done, was locked the door, and told him that he owed you for your time....and when he coughed it up you'd unlock the door. ***HOLE
     
  26. The Mandrill
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    If I was in that spot and REALLY wanted to buy the other car, I would have offered to take the $33k and keep the fenders and running boards. Or keep them and give him a couple weeks to s****e up the other $2k. When the price says firm and I dont agree with the price I always say "If you still have it in a couple weeks or if the price changes please give me first shot" and that almost always verifies whether it is truly a firm price. For those of us who buy and sell to support our habit there is an unwritten code and that guy definitly blew it.
     
  27. flynstone
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    10 hrs home that guy was talkin to himself ....fuk i let my dream car go by for 2k god am i stupid,stupid stupid
     
  28. Chemin
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    Too many people watching Pawn Brokers or American Pickers. They figure everyone has their price. You had yours and stuck to it. Good for you. He had what he thought you could be talked into. His loss.
     
  29. BJR
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    I am surprised that an older guy would drive up to a strangers house, in the dark, with 33K in cash on him with no friends with him for backup.
     
  30. roddin-shack
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    He had his pissed off WIFE with him for back up, LOL, he must have realized I was a nice guy before he laid down the cash, I had no idea he was going to do that, or had the cash with him. I am sure he thought the cash would clinch the deal.

    I am not a desperate seller, but just wanted another car. I guess I will just suffer through another season driving my Ole 5-W.:cool:
     
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