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Help..new paint with the old look

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bonehead II, Mar 1, 2011.

  1. Bonehead II
    Joined: Apr 18, 2005
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    I'm lookin to paint my car in the spring and have it on the road this summer, but I don't want the look of new paint, does anyone know how to have the paint look 20 years old.
    Thanks for your help..mike
     
  2. atomicclutch
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    from pgh, pa

  3. belair
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    Paint it outside on a windy day and don't read the instructions for the gun or the paint.
     
  4. 31fordV860
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    Use 20 year old paint, not new paint.
     
  5. racastaneda
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  6. Mr48chev
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    Well, to each his own. Are you saying that you don't want super shiny paint or are you saying that you want that silly ***ed fake patina look?

    Guys run a flattener in the paint so as not go get the real shiny look or do as I did by accident in 1973 and not clear the paint. That wasn't basecoat clear coat though but paint that actually called for clear. I was only about 35 years ahead of myself on that one.
     
  7. 32Gnu
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    Kirker sells a flat or satin clear you can put over your color to flatten it if you dont want "shiny" paint...
     
  8. Yea it doesn't take a lot of skill to screw up a pant job.

    You might try John Deer Blitz Black. Its a flat, then buff the hell out of it.

    Make sure you use red primer so the places you burn through will look like the paint just wore off.
     
  9. squirrel
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    Drive on gravel and dirt roads for a few thousand miles. After each day's drive, wipe the car off with a rag, with no water.

    Or just wait 20 years. or move to Arizona and wait 10 years
     
  10. redlinetoys
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    You really need to clarify the question...

    Do you want a ratty used fake wornout look?

    Or are you wanting to get the smooth, non orange peeled look of original nitrocellulose lacquer (version modern enamels or urethanes)?

    Or are you just wanting weathered looking paint that has gone sort of flat but is still one color?

    3 very different things that will all be accepted differently with this forum group...
     
  11. Thirdyfivepickup
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    that's funny.

    Arizona... :D
     
  12. 90ssp
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    it's your car but I would want mine shiny...like when it was new but again it's your car and our opinions don't matter. post pics when your done
     
  13. flatout51
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    I've seen guys wax their primer... looks like really old lacquer. I think it seals it too
     
  14. Strange Agent
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  16. Kripfink
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    Once again, here I sit thinking what the hell is wrong with a nice shiny paint job,if you've got the green for a new paint job:confused:.
    With the usual proviso that I never "get it" until the "it" has become something else.
    Paul
     
  17. I just will never understand this. Why would you go through the work of a nice new paint job just to make it look old?

    That's like going to the store and asking where I could can find gray hair dye and instant wrinkle cream!
     
  18. You're right on both accounts.

    There are a lot of ways to achieve the look depending on what the look is. If you want toe look of the older paint as in you don't like the wet look of the color coat clear coat paint then a single stage enamel works well.

    If you are after the weathered look but solid look of old paint that the trick with the John Deer paint actually works. The thing with the John Deer paint it that it really is paint and not primer.

    If you want it to look worn out like a lot of the fellas want then only buff it where you want to burn through then don't lean as hard on it where you leave it black so it doesn't get too much sheen but breaks the flat up a bit.

    Some guys take good paint and steel wool it. Make sure you look at lots of cars with butched paint so you steel wool it in the right places. If you wear through it in the wrong places it looks like new paint that someone screwed up.

    Flatout51s suggestion is also an avenue that is doable and like he said it looks like old worn out lacquer. You will never acquire the depth or sheen of a well cared for old lacquer job. But it will give you the look of an old neglected car that you hand waxed to try and get rid of some of the oxidation.

    There is another avenue that you can try if you are not a professional painter you can still buy acrylic lacquer in most parts of the civilized world, it is not as deep as the Nitryl stuff that they used to sell but it is good looking paint and you will achieve an old school look with it if you try. It will weather quickly so you do need to keep it protected with a good paste wax or I guess you could let it weather then wax it.

    It all depends on the old paint that you are after I suppose.

    The problem with your question is as many others have done as of late you are not clear as to what you want to know. So we just guess that you are a screw up because you haven't let us know that you are not. (this is not directed at Flatout51)
     
  19. need louvers ?
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    And, sadly true very true too!
     
  20. FritzTownFord
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    Let's ***ume he means the lacquer look of the old days.

    I also don't want the plastic look of two stage paint. So...

    How do we get the soft glow of "old paint" on a new spray?
     
  21. xhotrodder
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    Are you saying you want the Ratrod patina look? Uh oh.
     
  22. Go back a couple of posts I just explained it in 3 part harmony. ;)
     
  23. I had my 39 Chev painted the original color using a single stage paint. Just the choice of color can give you that old look.
    WD40
     
  24. Steves32
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  25. Gahrajmahal
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    Come to Ohio. I'll bet I saw 20 cars painted that way at the Pumpkin run this year. All with funny fic***ious garage names painted on the doors. There was an article in Hot Rod or Rod & Custom about how to do those faux finishes. I can admire the technical skill to do the work, but it seemed to be as much or more than a regular paint job. If you do it yourself and post the results, I'll read your thread. But you may get some abuse.
     
  26. FritzTownFord
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    Yeah, thanks PnB! I missed it 'cause of the post timing.

    Also, I agree you can never go wrong with an original (make & era) color. Look at all those red rods and Aackk! Pastel cars that sell at a $10k discount because of the color.

    If you have a red car and like it, cool. But there were thousands of red rods in the ninties.
     
  27. Tiller56
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    Take a paint roller for house panting and roll on different colors like black, brown white and grays. Overlap them and make them roll on top of each other then wet sand the paint down until you get the look your after. Check it on a flat piece of metal first to see if you like it.
     
  28. squirrel
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    Most rods in the 50s were gray. At least that's how they look in the old magazines....
     

  29. Yea the whole post timming thing is wierd. I was calling someone a bad name once and had to go back and delete because before I posted he had already posted an appology. :eek:

    I still think he worked it that way to make me feel bad. ;)

    Red works if you are aiming at a certain look and era. But as 50 year old red looks pretty ****py.

    When I was little I always wanted a car that was Cambel's Tomato Soup
    Orange. I still might paint one that color somday.
     

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