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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ROBERT JAM, Mar 22, 2005.

  1. ROBERT JAM
    Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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    I know this has been brought up before.I'm in the process of trying to come up with a black paint that doesent have a high shine to it.I had dp 90 with flat clear coat before and it looked ok but it had different shades on the doors ect.I'm tryng to get info on a paint that would give me the same look.I thought someone had a brand of paint that was a satin type gloss.Any help on this for the 32 sedan?
     
  2. touchdowntodd
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    satin black its called... just mix in thinner... or use john deer paint.,. great satin black.. rustoleum with thinner man...
     
  3. slammed
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    Search 'Blitz Black' and you shall find thread's that offer many way's to achive this sheen that you seek.
     
  4. john deere black.
     
  5. zgears
    Joined: Nov 29, 2003
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    John Deere Blitz black is terrible quality paint, but cheap. i wish i had used somethin else.
     
  6. 40StudeDude
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    I think I'd be more worried about the shade of red to put on the wheels...there are so-oooooo-oooo many different reds out there...

    R-
     
  7. MattB
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    Why, ROCKABILLY red of course!!
     
  8. FoMoCo_MoFo
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    RED LODGE!!! I have a place in Laurel... I will be up there in a couple of weeks to pick up my new H-D... We should meet up for a couple of beers

    I have used the john deer paint and like the way it looked. it is an industrial paint so it will be a bit thicker and it takes a bit more umph to lay it down.

    and **** those on here who are being ****s... the guy just asked a real question... and it had nothing to do with wheel color
     
  9. Brickster
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    DuPont Hot Rod Black. Don't know what the cost is but I liked it. Layed down nice, the gloss is a little shinier then DP90.
     
  10. ckdesigns
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    from Ogden,Utah

    Has any one used Extreme brand hot rod black?
    I was given a brochure from a rep the other day, the car in the picture looked good just curious if anyone had used it.
     
  11. Blownolds
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    from So Cal

    Which of these paints gives more of a satin sheen than a totally flat suede?
     
  12. kritz
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    from flint, mi

    if ya want the low LOW buck suggestion...try the krylon ultra-flat camoflage spraypaint....it seriously looks like the damn stealth bomber... black as night and flatter than hell...also comes in olive drab, tan, and brown.

    i would probably go with a black basecoat and use a flattened uv clear on it...that way you're not having to repaint every year due to sun fading... you can even play with different levels of flat,semi-flat, semi-gloss etc...
     
  13. Scott
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    dupont gloss black with 30 percent flattening agent . Im not a painter but I asked a guy how he did his paint, It came out excellent
     
  14. Shoprag
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    catipiller black also gives off that old look. i don't know if u can still get it but last year i was at one of the local paint stores they had a black laquer primer but they sold it as furniture primer, if your paint store has it u can't let'em know ur gonna paint a car with it. i'll check it out 2morrow and see if they still have it.
     
  15. PBRmeASAP
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    Zgears....
    care to explain a little more, why don't you like it? problems? thought about using it but your the first to complain, would like to hear your thought
     
  16. zgears
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    it doesn't sand very well, its very rubbery. it gums up your sand paper, even w/soap and water. also, it loses it semi gloss shine quick, when left out side.
     
  17. Hip
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    The re-glossing problem can be solved by using 000 steel wool if your trying to use sand paper to reactivate the shine and having problems with gumming up paper.
     
  18. 54BOMB
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    I was talking with the body shop guy here at work and he said some of that industrial paints have to be totally stripped off the car before you paint it again, I was looking for a primer paint job for the summer just to cruise in for a while and wanted something I could paint over the top of next year, if you want a "real" paint job later it might be something to think about.
     
  19. Clark
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    Go to your paint store and ask for the paint they put on the hoods of busses or helicopters. All brands should have it. My father's RPU has PPG's version. It's been on the truck for over 5 years and still looks good.
    Clark
     
  20. Kurt
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    I was looking at some Rally black today that is a satin looking paint. I guess it was used for hood stripes. My paint buddy had some left from a Mopar paintjob we are going to use instead of the JD blitz.
     
  21. biggie
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    I actually found this stuff called "hot rod black" lacquer primer, cost about 60 bucks with thinner,sprays easily, and the instructions say 1 1/4 thinner to 1 part primer. I think it looks better at 1:1 myself. Have fun!:)
     
  22. ROBERT JAM
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    Thanks to all who gave me answers to this.I've decided to go with dupont hot rod black.
     
  23. overspray
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    Everybody's perception of the "flattness" they are looking for is different. Shoot a test panel, at least 2 feet square (old hood) to see if it's what you are looking for. Look at the test for a few days before painting. With the Dupont product you can probably get it flatter with a compatible flattening agent or glossier by adding the compatible gloss black to the mixture. Keep track of the recipe for later. Using good catalyzed products will give more durability and make it as easy as scuffing and cleaning to change your mind to a different color later.

    John Deere Blitz Black is an Alkyd enamel. Without hardner (which is the primary application technique) it will remain sensitive to strong chemicals and solvents which can make recoating with something else a nightmare. It is however a good economical finish. Get as much information as you can about the available products. An informed decision will keep you more satisfied down the road.

    overspray
     
  24. 6sic6
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    Now, what about the scuffing problems. Do these mixtures you're talking about prevent what my car gets. Anytime you rub anything on it, it's like a chalk board you can see every lil mark in it. We'd debated using that Dupont Hot Rod Black... does it prevent that? Or does anyone know?
     
  25. 54BOMB
    Joined: Oct 23, 2004
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    Thats a good question I had some other black industrial paint and it was always gritty and would scratch real easy. 6sic6 your car looks almost like mine , I dig the black and white.
     
  26. lobuck
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