nice trucks guys, love the look too.......... wish mine was half that done but its a long way before it get there. BUT I do have a rough pic of what it may look like when done. a friend took a pic of a burb like mine & did this for me & yes the windows are stock in this truck because it was made as a school bus.its a 3800 series burb ...........joe
Thanks porknbeaner that info will be stored for future use. Pretty lucky guess on the rearend width. SoWhat both of those trucks are badass. It amazes me that Mikes has a 5 inch body lift and it still sits that low. I'm hoping my Stude be flyin' that low. (any where close would be good.) Is there any build pics of either truck on here? If not could you post some? Thanks guys. Eric =========================================================== 49 Studebaker P/U
OGNC, Ya you pulled me out of the closest.. Hi my name is Boones and I owned a fully bagged S-10 blazer... Oh shit wrong meeting.. Studeboy, what is the wheelbase on the 4dr blazer..
Here is a S-10 chassis under a buick.. This is KustomBuicks (does not post much anymore). Its now has an Art Morrison rear sub frame since the factory frame rails interfeared with the wrap around T-bird seat
dixiedog... I did one a while back and it worked pretty good. On the Ford you need to set it directly on the frame. The back of the cab where the frame comes through will need to be cut out a little. The S-10 frame is a couple of inches wider than the stock frame. Jaygeff is doing one now. Maybe we can get some pics of it. Clark
bttt, studeboy, sent you an email about your chassis dimension Clark, ya that Buicks sits down doesn't it
Like Porknbeaner said, they are like F-bodys. Actually the bottom control arm, spring and swaybar are. The upper and lower arms, spindles, brakes, springs, and swaybars are the same as the G-body Monte, Malibu, Regal, etc. I had a 79 Malibu, and I used S-10 drop spindles and 4.3 v-6 springs. They were rated at 600lbs, a bit softer than SS Monte at 620lbs, which are softer than S-10 4.3 v-6 extended cab with A/C 660lbs I think. There are camaro springs that are 700lbs if you're running a really heavy motor. Brakes... Here's how to add 12" disk to the front. Anyhow, check out monte carlo and buick GN sites if you want to know about front suspension tech. That malibu I had used poly-bushings all around, stiff front springs, and stock rear coils, and would handle like a corvette. It was like it was on rails. Hope that helps...
A friend's 41 cornbinder on 118 inch S-10 frame. Uses the stock V-6 drivetrain and frame is not altered in length. I would have shortened it a touch. Stock column and guages and wiring harness. He has under $1500 in it and it is a runner. The truck is also not lowered.
Mojo I just looked at that link and it looks like that would work. Most of the parts could be had from the boneyard for cheap. Heck the Camero 1LE rotors would probably cost more than the spindles. The article also mentioned a 640lbs spring at the bottom of the page that would lower it 1 inch. I think you found a gold mine of info on this one my friend. Thanks!!!! Boones Sent me an email wanting to know the wheelbase of my blazer chassis. I found something on the web that might help a few others also. Hope somebody besides Ken find this useful. web page Eric
Looks like the S-10 chassis is the new-age chassis for daily driver HotRods...I had no idea that so many where being built. I like to see more !!!!!!
Actually, there were folks that thought that the S-10 was the model t of the '90s. IE entry level hotrod. Then one of the heavy hitter magazines (won't mention any names) put out an article on how difficult it was to put a V8 in one. What a load. Very bad info, but the upside is that alot of guys abandoned the hotrod S-10 and started trying to build more old school rods (cause its easier?). Didn't take the new bunch of real rodders to figure out that the frames were cheap and usuable. One of the big name glass body manufactruers is now making a kit to revamp an S-10 chassis, to use a a cheapie for streetrods. I think its Downs. To answer the F-1 question, and anyone elses chassis swap question for that matter. The key is to assemble the front fenders on the cab, then place the cab and feners so the wheels fall in the middle of the fenderwell. Then deal with the bed as necessary. The short wheelbase pickup chassis is ideal for mid 50s ford and chevy trucks. Actually the wheelbase on a 53-55 F-100 is within an 1/8 inch of the S-10. You can fudge the fenders that much. I believe that the fenders on an F-1 are a little longer than the early F-100 so you should have lotsa room to set whatever engine you want and even get some setback without tunneling the firewall. I'd have to measure to be sure. One thing to bear in mind when setting a pickup on an S-10 chassis is that the frame kicks in the front and back as compaired to most older pickup chassis. The cab basically sits in a cradle. Its the equivelent of a Zd chassis. So you get a very low stance with very little work. Example, I moved the floor on the F-Truck 2" (channeled). With the Kick in the front and the back it comes out the same as about 7" on channel on a stock chassis. I already had 2" spindles from my previous use of the chassis (the rear is adjustable). So in order to keep the fenders off the pavement I had to section. I have about 7" of clearence under the doors (I don't run boards). Oh, way too much info right?
Porknbeaner - i like the thoughts on setting the whole front clip & cab on the frame over the front wheels. I was wondering how the firewall falls out in relationship to the rear of the motor (esp dizzy). And you sectioned the fenders only? If you ran the stock spindles would you have to section? The binder is cool do you have any other pics? There is an outfit that makes a glass body that resembles a 40 ford truck but uses the cab - looks pretty stupid IMHO, but each his own.
I'll jump in here.I used the frontend of the S-10 frame and grafted my own creation to the rest.It was easier than building around the curves of the complete frame.
I took 1" outa the grill opening, and two off the rear of the fronts, did the same in reverse on the rears. There's method in my madness, I also wanted to change the proportions of the truck. Without the drop spindles I wouldn't have had to section, but I wouldn't be as low under the doors. Here's the deal, corner like its on rails, and look different but who knows what was done. With no chop (everyones doin' that) its slighly out of proportion, but not enough to be obvious. I just don't care for cookie cutter cars (at least not if I'm driven 'em). Thing I like about HAMBers, they aren't afraid to break outa the mold, build with whats at hand, and drive it when they're done. Trust me if it were any different I wouldn't be here. You all young and old alike are where I come from. All alike only different. Oh my GAWD, I think I'm waxing sentimental. sorry Bros. I'll dig around for some pics, I gotta put something together for a new friend anyway. But right now I gotta get outa here. Trying to get a Nash together for a friend and make some X-mas money. If I recall there are some roller pics on a thread about a '57 Ford truck. Don't recall but the HAMBer is from Northern Cal.
Dixiedog, By the way, my engine was already set back a good bit (jammed into the firewall) but with the F truck on the chassis I have plenty of room. I do have to make a divet for the dist, wouldn't have to without the channel. I found some old construction pics here that I'll post. Later when I can find 'em I'll put up some engine bay pics for ya. She's still lookin a little rough, a lump of coal I guess. The first 2 are setup prior to body mounting, the 3rd was the day it became a roller.
Porknbeaner - let me tell ya, that lump of coal is well on its way to be diamond! - looks good - I have never been a big fan of the effies 53-56 but i like that look, because it's different.
[ QUOTE ] Don't feel bad Scotch, I own a bagged S-series too. In fact, there are a bunch of guys on here who have owned or still own some pretty bad ass mini-trucks. I could out a bunch of them because I remember a lot of them from when I was the Editor of Mini-Truckin' Magazine so many years ago. Isn't that roght Boones, Killer, Wes, and the list goes on... [/ QUOTE ] Yep... I owned a body dropped 87 Mazda. Wasn't cool enough to get into NC though...
im getting ready to put one under my 53 ford car...had the front half of the frame given to me...could have bought another whole truck for $200.....
I would disagree with the S10 being a better frame. The S10 does have a better front suspension setup, but the Ranger frame has tons more rigidity. Put a jack under the driver or passenger side front and jack until the front wheel just leaves the ground. The Ranger will take a lot less to lift the wheel. Torsional twist means a lot to handling. But the twin I-beam is not much good for much at all in my opinion and I'm a Ford guy.
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