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SBC eviction notice

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by turdytoo, Mar 13, 2011.

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  1. MeanGene427
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    Yep, sounds like another brainwashed expert, who's probably never had one, worked on one, built one, or been for a ride behind a good FE- but KNOWS...
    BTW, a big-block FE only weighs about 50 lbs more than a small-block Chebbie- unlike a considerable more portly big-block Chebbie.
    Gee whiz, rear view mirror? That sure means a lot, any sixteen year old kid can do that in a Yugo, just drive 5 mph faster than traffic on the freeway :eek:
    Of course, when you consider yourself the "great one", you don't need actual experience, supreme knowledge just comes to you- or you read too much Car Craft and Super Chebbie :p
     
  2. movin/on
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    I don't really see anything wrong with the way this FE looks.
    But then it's "only" in a 32 ford (from I think New Zealand or Australia).

    I'm planning of duplicating this - except with Stromberg WW's & a Mallory Dizzy in a Model A



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    I've got all of the pieces now just need the time!
     
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  3. Ebbsspeed
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    You're not serious, are you? For one thing, all of those flat pulleys and idlers are just one of the things that's wrong with it. The plastic cam covers aren't exactly cool either......
     
  4. I'm thinking a hot little LS1 would move the roadster quite nicely...

    Might have to update the T5 though.

    Those LS1 motors have some BALLS...

    Sam
     
  5. Larry W
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    Aren't you glad you ask.
     
  6. nukeGM
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    Some people are easily brainwashed. sad but true
     
  7. Scarebird
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    too bad there wasn't a website filled with guys who can fix minor details like that...
     
  8. MeanGene427
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    We had a traditional chopped Merc at the show a couple years ago with a dressed-up sohc Mod engine, serpentine belts, carb, etc., and it looked saweet
     
  9. V4F
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    my vote :
    1) flathead
    2) olds 331
    3) nailhead ..................................... steve
     
  10. elcamino65
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    I have had an FE and didnt like it but some people love them thats my personal oppinion. I get loosing the sbc. I have one also but it does get kind of boring. I think a nailhead would be cool but i realy like the 241-270 red ram hemi. Whats the objection with SBF a 351M or 400M can be made to realy scoot.
     
  11. F&J
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    Several have said Pontiac.... I never see an early Pontiac in a rod. Are there no manifolds and valve covers and goodies available? .. or is there another reason nobody uses them?
     
  12. turdytoo
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    I have a carbureted 4 cam 4.6 in my 3w and a car has to be built around that motor. I feel like there is so lttle difference between SBC & SBF that its not worth a change. I don't need anymore go fast than the built motor I have so that isn't a factor. I like the ability to get such a wide range of ideas and pros/cons here on the HAMB. Thanks guys.
     
  13. Heo
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    I gues you mean Slow like wining LeMans several years in a row??
    Hmmm lets se....any other american engine did that?????
    Dont think so
     
  14. c-10 simplex
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    If there's space BMW 12 cyl from a 750il in junkyard.:)

    Seriously, this is the only logical choice----if you're insane.
     
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  15. MeanGene427
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    LOL don't worry, just another brainwashed one re-writing history he knows little about :rolleyes:
    Probably knows little of the NASCAR and drag racing history, either- but he KNOWS... :p
     
  16. 61 chevy
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    he said rebuild time for chevy , thats gone be a long time to come, ha,ha
     
  17. F8TL
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    1. Y-block
    2. flathead
    3. FE Frickin Expensive

    but all ford motors...
     
  18. Engine man
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    The problem you run into with switching from an SBC is oil pan clearance. With the oil pump in the rear, SBCs have the deep part of the pan at the rear. Engines with the oil pump in front have to be mounted higher for axle clearance.
     
  19. FINKSTR
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    I'm putting a 409 in my deuce sedan to be different but I think you'd be happy with an early hemi, early Cad or nail head buick. I'm sure you'll make the right choice for you.
     
  20. jamesgr81
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    This guy sounds like the last angry kid. Ford and Chevy argument is as old as time. Adding insults to belittle the comments is so.....juvenile. :cool:
     
  21. 72IH
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    Your right.

    But it feels so right.

    Besides, isn't that why drag racing was invented long before the inter-web was created for all you for the keyboard racers with opinions?

    Invalid opinions I might add. Go with a Y block!
     
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  22. if your not looking for super speed, but a "vintage" factor and have some extra cash floating around.

    1. nailhead
    2 348/409
    3. hemi

    notice i like the ones with the distinctive valve covers.
     
  23. MeanGene427
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    "Great one", you made two ridiculous, uneducated, incorrect "comments" about the FE- heavy, and no power. If you were to stay even close to anything resembling a fact, you'd be OK- but BS is BS. Deal with it- or maybe bum a ride in a car with a good 427 in it. If you're so Chebbie-brainwashed that you couldn't enjoy that, there ain't much hope for ya :p
    Bye, now
     
  24. Chili Phil
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    Some of you sound like religious fanatics, arguing about what engine. I don't see many positive comments. So, here's my thought on this. IF the car handles exactly the way you like it, don't mess with too much weight. That rules out most vintage engines. The other factor that makes the SBC the smart choice is cost. I like Olds engines. Not cheap. Going to a less powerful, heavier engine doesn't seem hot rod to me.
    That said, most HAMBers are more like restorers than old time hot rodders. Lots of we HAMBers like to see cars that look like they were done in the mid 20th century. Not all of us, that's for sure, but more than a few.
    But, if you want to make your car heavier and your wallet lighter, I recommend a Kettering Olds. There are few prettier engines than an Olds. All 700# of it.
     
  25. Captain Chaos
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    I'm an Olds guy so thats always my vote . Later style 403 is lightweight for the cubes and makes good power with little effort .
    But for some reason I think tri power Y-block in that thing sounds right .
    There is a reason I pulled my Y block in favor of an FE , I want about 200 more HP than is required to drive the car ; )
     
  26. Chili Phil
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  27. Atwater Mike
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    Too true! Seen some FEs that weren't screamers...(mostly 352s & short rod 360s, 9:1 motors...)
    but seen lots of Chevy overconfidence from limited exposure get absolutely insulted by a 'tuned' 390. (lots as in Many)
    My '54 Ford Customline Coupe with 427 sideoiler & 3 speed was an extreme example.
     
  28. MeanGene427
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    Those old Olds engines were another vintage piece that ran hard and stayed together- a lot of big-time road racers still used the old 394-type well into the late 60's in McKees, McLarens and such. Wasn't unusual to see a field with a few big Olds, some 289 Fords, and 327 or 365 sbc's all running in a pack about the same speed in lightweight Group 7 cars at Watkins Glen, Bridgehampton, Laguna Seca, Kent, Road America, Elkhart Lake, Riverside...
     
  29. MeanGene427
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    Did that '54 happen to come from Napa? My friend had one like that, sideoiler/medium riser with a Shelby Dominator manifold, 3spd OD tran, '65 Shelby rearend with Locker & 3.91's, LTD disc brakes and wheels, govenment green with poverty caps- would have made a helluva likker car, and with an old guy in ****ies driving, surprised many a ****y kid in a Chebbie. Then his wife had a '69 Boss 429 that she drove to Safeway, and his son had three different original 427 Cobras, MkI GT40 #P1009, and MkII GT40 # 1012. So yeah, I don't blindly follow the brainwashed ;)
    And I currently have 10 427's and 3 428CJ's, so I have some actual experience with what they can do ;)
     
  30. 72IH
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    Almost bought a 428CJ mustang in 1987 for $4300. Only reason I p***ed it up is it had the auto trans. It had every factory option available. Was white with blue stipe, white interior.

    Man I was a stupid 18yo for p***ing that up. Only 82,000 original miles and one owner. That car looked almost new, not a flaw to be seen.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid. I look back at that with a lot of regrets. It was a second car for me though, so I felt it wasn't a have to get item.
     
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