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A few Q about building

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Activate, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. Activate
    Joined: Mar 20, 2011
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    I have bought a 29 Gord Tudor that I want to rebuild.

    I want to drop the front axle 6" I-beam or Tubular and want to use lowest wheels as possible on the stock spindels.(where I can but a complete set cheap)

    What is the best way to let the rear axle drop 6"?

    I want to chop the roof, what is te best height to chop?

    Thanks and greetings,


    Erik.

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  2. iammarvin
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    iammarvin
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    Cheapest way would be to take the rims and tires off, put them flat on the ground , set the car on top of them. 6 " drop ,stock spindles. But why would you do this to an ultra rare Gord?
     
  3. The best chop is anywhere from about 1/2" to about 10".

    Do a search and see what other fellas have done with their cars choose the one you like.

    Dropping the rear 6" is going to involve Zing the rear of the frame. Do a search again.

    There is no good place to buy an axle dropped 6" Bell axles is probably a good place to start or Pete and Jakes, both owned by the same fella. he'll talk you into building a street rod but who really cares.

    Low wheels try any number of wheel manufacturers. pic some that float your boat.

    Now I do have a better suggestion. Spend some time spearching past and present threads on the subject. l get started learning what works ans what doesn't. it will take you a while but it is a starting place. Hot rodding isn't instant so it won't really extend your build time anyway.

    By the way if that is your car you are starting with a very sweet candidate. I would think it would be hard to come by something that nice in your part of the world. very nice.
     
  4. bgbdlinc
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    ....I bit....and Googled 'Gord Tudor'....Mom always said I was a little slow....
     
  5. TomWar
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    I used to have a 36 Gord Now I have a 27dord.
     
  6. The only 29 Gord I've seen was a 4 door......
    Very rare, just restore it.

    3" is the best chop for this type body.
     
  7. trad27
    Joined: Apr 22, 2009
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    No one can tell you the best way to lower it and the best chop, it is all just personal prefrence, there is no set guidlines to build a hot rod. What are you plans for the build? What era? Fenders? hood? Drive train? All factors in the best choice but even then it would just be our opinon and not yours. As others have said search build threads and find one that you like best and use thier build as a guidline for yours.

    (insert smart *** remark about gord here)...:D
     
  8. Activate
    Joined: Mar 20, 2011
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    Thnx for the answers.

    The things I want to do is to drop the front an rear about 6".
    Boxing the frame.
    Removal of the fenders and hood.
    Put a V8 in.
    Other wheels.
    Chop the roof.

    That will be enough in the beginning , maybe during the project plans will change........

    The best thing about this car that it has a Dutch license, I t can be driven on the street.
    The original engine and ****** are in iit runs nice and the are rebuild.....

    Thnx and greetings,

    Erik.
     
  9. striper
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    This is my Gord. I haven't chopped it yet...but I plan to. I think it is newer than '29. I don't think I'd miss 6" off this one.


    But if you had a Ford like in your picture you could use a 4" dropped axle, reversed eye spring and 16" wheels. That will get the front down more than 6". The rear is going to need a "Z" I think.
     
  10. rusty bill
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    The F and G are next to each other on the keyboard!
     
  11. skidsteer
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    I hear them Gords is rare.
     
  12. Mr48chev
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    Do as a couple of others said and search photos of that year of Model A sedans that are chopped. When you find some that just look exactly what you were thinking about find out how much the chop was. Too many guys try to chop the tops too much and end up with a car that is out of proportion and worse one that is uncomfortable to sit in for any length of time or to drive for any length of time. My eye says start at three inches on the chop.

    Same for getting the front end down involves pretty much the same thing.
    Are you planning on running the fenders? With fenders that look to be in great shape I would run them and have a full fendered car.
    Again look for photos of cars that are set up the way you have your dream car set up and find out how much axle drop and what size tire and wheel they are running. A lot of this style car here run tires about the same size as an old VW bug on the front.

    On the back you will probably have to modify the frame if you want it very low.
     
  13. Now I understand why people keep saying Im out of my Gord!!! I just need to drive it more often!

    Doc.

    PS I have nothing to add, I think everyone has given pretty good ideas.
     
  14. larry woods
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    mr 48 chev has a lot of good advice. so do some of the others but hard to get thru some of the joking around. get yourself to some car shows and talk w/ owners of chopped and ask if you can sit in them. rodders tend to be a helpful group. once you start removing metal via chop, section or lose space via channel it does change the whole car and your potential comfort and ease. check before you cut!
     
  15. Well you don't have to be a **** about it. :D:D:D

    Doc
    I was lucky enough to get my head out my gord once. Mine actually looks a lot like this one.
     
  16. Activate
    Joined: Mar 20, 2011
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    Ok i am going to buy a 4" dropped front axle and going to chop 4".

    I am starting with boxing the frame.

    So the brakes on this type are not very braking...I geus I am going to update them to Hydro.(in front)

    Is it possible to drop the rear axle for 4"without modifying the frame?

    How much HP can a stock rear axle handle?

    Thanks and greetings,

    Erik
     
  17. styleline
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    hey erik a word from the wise first off al if you don,t have youre plates keep it as stock *** posible for the dutch rdw,when you have received youre dutch licens plates,then modd it.

    cheers
     
  18. Activate
    Joined: Mar 20, 2011
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    I have been to the RDW on Friday I have got a sleeping ***le.

    I must return to them this week for a stock APK and then i got the complete ***le back.

    It must be running(it is) the brakes must be working, the doors must be closing, the tyres must be good and the lights must be working.

    I need no windows, turninglights stoplights or what so ever...

    I did work on it last Saturday and all that work has already be done with the former owner he has everything in the brakes done (new) all the bearings to!

    It hase got a Tile in The Netherlands in 1962, the nice thing about this project it is numbers matching, every part(some new) is with it and no rust except one door!!!


    Greetings,


    Erik.
     
  19. styleline
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    well erik than youre a lucky man,good luck whit getting the full ***le back,seems no problem to me to get this part done,if you have all the right papers than is this part off the build a walk in the park.

    cheers
     
  20. carcrazyjohn
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    cross member 0 rake ,Reversed eyes spring 4 inch drop axle and 14 's up front ,That will get you low,For the front ,I here that with a 5 inch or 6 inch drop axle you run into steering problems
     
  21. Activate
    Joined: Mar 20, 2011
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    Thanks for the answers!

    I will get a 4"in front,

    So I need only a 4"reversed eye spring in the back?

    No I have to find out how much Hp a stock axle will handle....
     

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