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Most durable suede black paint?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mattilac, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. Mattilac
    Joined: Oct 27, 2007
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    I want to paint my car the most durable suede black that exists. This will be for a feature film that's shooting later this year, so it needs to have that satin/suede look. At first I was thinking JD blitz black since people say its easy to spray and tough as a hammer, but then I also heard that it will get porous over the years. That would be no good if true. I need this paintjob to hold up. What do you guys think?

    Also, the car is currently in etching primer. Can I spray blitz black over etch?
     
  2. Sir Woosh
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    Part of what's going to make a difference is if it's garaged or not. The sun and weather are the real enemy..............

    Will it be mostly in or out?
     
  3. Mr48chev
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    Most of the ag equipment paint will hold up pretty good if you do the prep right.

    I know from experience that the IH red in the spray cans from them will stand up to daily bouts with a pressure washer. And that's with less than careful hands holding the pressure washer wand. No experience with the JD stuff though.
     
  4. the BEST thing to do is to paint it with a base coat/cleat coat system with flattened clear. use a clear with excellent UV protection to protect the color.

    for single stage, i would recommend dupont hot hues or kirker hot rod black.

    if you use JD black and want to repaint later, you get to strip the whole car and start over!!!
     
  5. Fenders
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    So what if it gets porous over the years, how long will the film shooting last? They're paying you for the use of the car, and maybe also for you as a driver, right?
     
  6. MacDuff
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    You could spray it with black basecoat and then a clear with flattening agent in it. Do a few test panels with different amounts of flattening agent in it get the sheen you want. It should be as durable as a regular paint job, just don't cut and buff it. If you go the bc/cc route you probably should prime first.

    Ah ****... alteredpilot beat me to it.
     
  7. R Frederick
    Joined: Mar 30, 2009
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    from illinois

    Never thought I'd be a "search Nazi", but Damn sick of seeing these flat black posts all day.:rolleyes:
     
  8. 53sled
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    it has to be in the top 5.
     
  9. Mattilac
    Joined: Oct 27, 2007
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    Believe me, I searched. I always search. But searching can only educate so much before you're left with certain questions.

    Also, I'm not going for a ratty flat black look. I just want a finish that's not nearly as glossy as a regular paintjob, but just as durable. (And relatively easy to do for a first timer!)

    You're right, the film shoot will only last through mid-2012. But I'm the director, and I don't want to shoot myself in the foot by half-***ing the car just for the shoot.

    You've all brought up some good things to ponder about. ;)
     
  10. caletcb
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    from alabama

    i would visit your local paint shop and talk to a rep. they can show you everything hands on.
     
  11. indyjps
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
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    PPG DX685 flattening agent. use with PPG Omni or other single stage paint.

    Of course your PPG distributor can tell you the mix ratio and the best products to use.

    Use real automotive paint, with a flattener and youll get the most durable finish. Omni is perfect to use as its a fleet paint and will fade over time anyway if shot in gloss.
     
  12. jtlester
    Joined: Oct 8, 2009
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    from Texas

    Id go with the SEMA product called Hot Rod Black. Single stage easy to shoot and holds up pretty good so far.
     
  13. SEM. not SEMA.

    the dupont HRB is more of a semi gloss.

    the kirker gets more semigloss depending on how many coats you put on.

    the best way to achieve the perfect degree of sheen is to go with flattened clear. you can degloss JUST a touch or a whole bunch.
     

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