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Convert plastics to oil/gas

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by GassersGarage, Apr 20, 2011.

  1. 53sled
    Joined: Jul 5, 2005
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    from KCMO

    there is alot of energy needed to collect waste plastic, transport it back to a refining station, then only a small percentage gets to be re-used, the rest is toxic waste. highly concentrated carcinogens.

    sorry to piss in everyone's cheerios.
     
  2. GMCRat
    Joined: Jul 6, 2009
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    Guess you don't see the street bums pushing stolen shopping carts full of cans and s**** metal to the recyclers where you live. Looks like they might be able to diversify now.
     
  3. Now that's the kind of environmental solutions we need. Not all this political, fear based **** that comes under the guise of "green".
     
  4. bflo rodder
    Joined: Jan 9, 2011
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    There is a place in Niagara Falls that does the same thing I was able to see the process and its pretty cool the company is called JBI I hope it takes off maybe these crazy gas prices will go down
     
  5. Enjoy the video. That's probably the last you'll ever hear of it.
     
  6. 32ford5
    Joined: Sep 15, 2009
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    Good positive at***ude there.

    This might be more of a good solution to (plastic) pollution than a way to make free gasoline. Even if we can turn the waste plastic which would get thrown away normally into something useful. As far as the energy required to collect it goes, it would be the difference between throwing it in the bin or the plastic furnace - no extra effort for home owners with rubbish (garbage to our North American friends) to throw away. We may not be able to run our high compression cars on it but we might be able to run a garage heater off it and save money that way to buy more fuel for our cars. Less plastics in landfill has got to be a good thing - right? If we can stop the waste at home it need go no further (to landfill).

    At $10,000 per unit it would take a while to save money by using it but it sure would be a great way to at least reduce pollution and we might be able to (at least) get some parts cleaner out of it or (if it burns in the right way) add a little to our cars to save a bit on fuel - at least (if not in our hot rods) in our daily drivers.
     
  7. Im no scientist but this seems incredible.
    1 kilo of plastic about 2.2 lbs yeilds one liter of oil.
    liter of 10w30 oil weighs 1.93 lbs.
    that leaves only .27 lbs of (something) left in the cooker.

    remember in science cl*** the laws that govern energy?
    basicaly its turned into another form of energy and never lost.

    I dont know how much heat energy it takes to BOIL PLASTIC INTO A GAS and Im not shure how much energy is released from the oil distilled out of that gas. Maybe the machine can be self fueling after initial start up IDK.

    seems something isnt adding up correctly.

    I dont have all the info or expertice needed to do that calculation but when you figure the cost of the equipment $$$ plus energy $$$ to run it vs the end product ???? if its not profitable or produces more than it consumes it will go no where. One option toward profitability would be if the owners of the large scale machine charged a fee for the dropping plastic at the door. Just like like the land fill charges. Thats going to cost someone, as the cost will be p***ed down.

    Dont forget Tesla had figured out how to provide free wireless electricity. Brought his idea to the investors and they were amazed. Then asked "wheres the money in that?''
     
  8. Nevala
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    I wrote them today, and asked them to send me a price list. The tabletop model that they demonstrate for most of the video runs $13500.00 before any kind of shipping. The smallest "refinery" that they had was $35383.00. Nice folks for replying though.
     
  9. voodoo1
    Joined: Jun 27, 2007
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    In the end it's easier to just grind up those platsics like they do and use it for other items like, carpet, toys, cell phones, etc. All of that recycling pays for itself.
     
  10. no55mad
    Joined: Dec 15, 2006
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    Show this to the refinery folks in ElStinko
     
  11. also there was a bloke over in perth (western australia) who invented a motor that converts ordinary tap water into hydrogen then burns the hydrogen. this thing was powerful enough to run a car and ran entirely on tap water and guess who brought it off him? shell oil company, made him rediculously huge offer that he couldnt turn down. (you can buy smaller scaled versions of this motor off ebay, one of my dads mates got one and it ran non stop for a week on one cup of water)
     
  12. budd
    Joined: Oct 31, 2006
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