For all of you Nor-Cal folks, please keep on the lookout for a nice place to locate a small hot rod shop for me. My landlord seems to feel that my 750 square foot, microscopic hot rod shop should now cost $1900.00 per month, in crappy, bullet riddled East Oakland. He wont budge. What has gotten into people?
Sorry to hear about your troubles, my old man ran a shop for a long time and having to move is a serious pain in the butt. Not sure how attached you are to the Bay, but I do know that Sacramento has a lot of commercial/retail space available. In particular, I know that the areas around Rancho Cordova have a lot of commercial properties that are vacant. I'm not saying its the best neighborhood, because it isn't! But compared to East Oakland, I think most of it would be a step up. Hope things work out!
Should be more like $1/sf or less for industrial kind of space in a not so in-demand area. Is he trying to charge extra for the bullets? Sometimes spaces prohibit auto repair, but sometimes only if a business. If just for personal or a hobby, even then they might let it slide as long as no auto related business license is needed along with change of use of the space, etc. I was paying about $1/ft for a pretty decent building in West Berkeley a couple years back before the economy took a dump. And that was a semi retail space on San Pablo Ave. So, I would think you should still be able to do better than that now and in a better area than East Oak. too. Maybe he is looking to get an Oaksterdam farm operation in there instead. edit: check CL of course: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/ more than twice the space of for $1220/mo.: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/2361373542.html
$1900 a month for 750 sq ft? Know a place here, old GM dealership, 8000 sq ft for lease for $1250 a month
sounds like he either wants you out, or he's going to try and make some $$ off you. time to go, and leave him holding the bag..bet he will be sorry when he cant get any one else in there and he's out the money..no one is going to pay that. is he not paying attention to whats going on out there in the real world?
U can check out livermore or Tracy. I don't know zoning stuff but I know u Can get 1200 sq ft for like 1300. We have a precision machine shop on one unit. And I know there is a lot of open space in Tracy. Do u live in Oakland?
My buddy owned a machine shop/manufacturing plant here in town. His landlord got all full of himself and nearly doubled the space rent. My friend is no wuss and he spent some time researching rents and lease deals. He presented a letter to the landlord outlining the facts surrounding the unreasonable rate and offering to stay for X amount of dollars. Landlord said he could rent it out within 10 days of vacating the premises. My friend moved out to a nice location near Las Vegas Speedway in an industrial park (same location where Shelby's factory is along with several other well-known automotive business. The space he left behind sat begging for nearly a year. Not sure what gets into some of these guys' heads, but the old adage that a 'bird in the hand...." is pretty much applicable unless you have a new tenant, with signed lease in hand. Best of luck in your quest for a relocation. It may be a blessing, from my limited exposure to the Oakland area...it's likely you'll be better off elsewhere, assuming your clients will follow. dj
wanna move east? know where you can buy a 40's shop, and a place to live. comm. hundred ninty five, in va.
There is a shop 3 shops down from the shop I work at here in San Francisco...just became vacant. I'm sure it is more than 1900$ though, good size and location, I think about 3500sq with an upstairs unit. I'll keep my eyes open cause I am looking for myself, the shop I am at is too hard to share with my boss. I have too much sh-t going on! Shop...that's #5.
SHiets!! You can score much better out here in Richmond! Iron Triangle, keep it real! Do you live in oakland? Why not go big...some cool stuff over in West Oakland. Is there any place in particular you would like be?
Wow..Thats insane, especially in this economy too...been alot of that goin around..I guess they'd rather get nothing a month because i highly doubt anyone is gonna pay that much for rent in that location these days..
What he is asking is $2.53/ft. I am not sure anything but a grow operation could support that, I certainly can't. I live in Oakland, but I rent, so relocation is a possibility. I have a small, but growing customer base, so I would like to not abandon that. I have been considering growing the shop a bit, say 33% in footage, or so, so not too much bigger, but have been holding off due to the economy. I did have a shop in the North Bay, with a former business partner, before that went sour (alcohol, him). I may roll up that way and have a look, too. I don't need a high-traffic area, or a store front. The neighborhood need not even be nice, since none will be worse than where I am now. For now, I am going to collect all of the brass and take it to the recyclers for extra cash.
WOW, even down here in the land of High Rents (Orange County, CA) I only pay .87 cents a foot, and that includes water! Nice retail footage can be had for $1.25 ft.
Damn and I thought NY was pricey! They are going for about a $1 or so a sqft here. I just helped a buddy more his compressor company our of a 8500 sq ft shop into a 4000 sq ft shop because of the same deal. The first shop was more room that he needed really but the lanlord got greedy. Now that same land lord did it to a few place he owned and is currently looking at 4 empty spots, I guess they have enough money, who knows.
He wants you out. That's his way of making you go without an eviction. If you are a good renter and pay on time all the time, he's got other plans for the space now, and you're in his way.
tell your landlord you out in 2 monthes, see if that changes his mind as far as pricing goes. worked for me, make sure he knows your not bluffing.
There are laws about how much he can try and raise your rent. In the state of California, your landlord is required to give to "timely" notice of raising the rent. If the increase is 10% or less than what you are currently paying, your landlord is required to provide at least 30 days notice, and if the increase is more than 10%, a 60 day notice is required.
contact "Murco" . they are located in Fremont, but have rental space all over. I pay $960.00 plus "common area maintenance" fee of about 30 bucks a month for 1600 sq feet. metal building with no office. this is in Fremont. as far as I know they frown on automotive.. tell them it is for storage.
It does indeed appear that there are other plans for the property, as he is doing this to everyone in the facility, not just my unit. I got a 60-day notice. There is no shortage of commercial space here, although automotive compatible space might be short. What I am finding is that most spaces are simply too large for my needs. I have seen several in the $0.55-$0.60/ft. range, but they start at 10x my current square footage. Not too sure I could pull off that leap. My previous-to-current location was in West O'. Got run out of that one due to condo development. The City of Oakland wants to turn the whole Mandela Parkway/Peralta (aka: West Oakland) corridor into "Emmeryville Lite" and has eyes on doing eminent domain on all of the commercial properties. They are after C.A.S.S., Cypress Auto, American Steel, etc. Not sure much of that will be there in the future. There must be some sort of way of writing-off a vacant commercial building on taxes, or something, 'cause there are more of them here than there are ones with tenants.
I'm pretty sure that is only true for residential stuff and even still is only city by city, not county or state. For commercial stuff, short of what your signed contract prevents, they can do whatever they want, whenever they want. It is purely a civil legal commercial business matter. They can double-triple your rent and give you give you 1 day to get out if you don't have a signed contract that prevents it. Commercial properties are not governed by personal and consumer protection laws like it is with residential properties.
Studes right. commercial is a different ball game. I've had it happen 3 times over the years. Twice with the dam Irvinve Co - $900.00 month to $2700.00 and a differnt location $2500.00 to 4500.00
Yup. The Mandela parkway, now, is the right-of-way that the Cypress Freeway was over before the Lome Prieta quake in 1989. Peralta is the next big street to the East. The freeway was relocated to the west over Union Pacific Railroad and Port of Oakland land, where there is nothing for it to fall on, as it is still elevated.
Danb,, I have a unit in a nice area in Upland. I am right at 1000 Sq. I pay $490 a month. My last shop in Ontario, Ca. was 2750 Sq at $1,400 Per month. It had 1500 Sq of fenced parking with it.
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