Ill look at the basics again, but I did all that. Thats why its blowing my mind. I dont think it jumped time because its a brand new chain set. Im really thinking water got into the distributor and is making it act up. I checked from square one last night that number one was on the compression stroke, then the piston was at TDC. The rotor was pointing to the number one terminal. And then went off the firing order on the old intake manifold thats cast in it. The reason I think its water is because I didnt touch the distributor at all from last weekend when it was running. I just did the cam plug and washed the engine.
hey i didnt imply your cap could be cracked, that was the reason mine let water in, yours might simply not fit tooo well and got water or just oisture in, i would think its fairly nrmal.
Well, you have a couple things to check, let us know. As was mentioned already, You could put points and cond back in also and try it. Just a thought. Lippy
OK, you took out the cam plug and now it will not start. If the cam moved while you were putting in the plug it could have jumped time on the distributor gear. recheck your TDC #1 location.
It may sound dumb, but once my 302 stopped working while driving and coincidentally after a bump in the road so I pulled over, looked to me as an electrical failure, changed rotor and cap and nothing (thought about the pertronix now 10+ years on my daily driver). Took out the air filter and looked over the carb for gas and it appeared to have gas. Long story short at the end the gas pump went bad. So, have you fed your carb with fuel manually? even though it looks like it has gas?. My 2 cents.
Well I tired cranking it today and its doing the same think. It sneezes through the carb and spits fuel out. I swapped the rotor and no dice. Swapped the cap and no dice. Now if the petronix ****ped out would it show these symptoms. When I grounded the plug it had nice and blue spark. My next step is try my points out. It really seems like a timing problem but I'm on tdc on the compression stroke, rotor points to number one, but its sneezes bad and won't start. I even swapped the wires 180 and it just got worse.
I think your timing is out timing chain 12 and 6 meet,and counter clockwise rotor 15426378, p*** side front 1234,drivers side front 5678
Its sparking with the intake valve open. = back fire. Why is the intake full of fuel? if moisture is not causing the spark to jump around the cap then something else is or the timing is off. Off at the cam, off on the distributor, off on the balancer.
I wired it wrong guys. I went clock wise on the cap instead of counter clock wise. Thanks for all the help guys! I've got about two days of wrenching and it will be back on the road!
Them fords used to really throw me for a loop. When you said the rotor pointed to number one, I thought hmmm, chevy guy workin on a ford?
I wired it wrong guys. I went clock wise on the cap instead of counter clock wise. Thanks for all the help guys! I've got about two days of wrenching and it will be back on the road!
No man I've been a ford man, I've just had the worst luck I've ever had in the last two weeks. I got it running, broke in the cam and dumped the oil. Hopefully I can tighten up all the loose ends and drive it in a day or two.
I have a story to tell a frend called and said he was working on a chevy 327 changed the wires and cap and it wont start I asked him to check the fireing order he did and said 18436572 thats correct so I asked if he moved the dist he said no. HUM he is a fair wrench on fords and his dad a die in the wool chevy guy. so I go over and he said he just moved the dist to point at number 1 so I asked him to pull plug one and lets bump it over and find # 1 again he walks to the right side and yes pulls # 2 out I about fell on the ground laughing I told him thats # 2 on a chevy he looks at me and says I know that ! I told him I wouldnt tell anyone Lol
Hope you get it all squared away. Trouble shooting over the internet is kind of tough. I'm not sure how you've got it wired wrong now, but didn't touch the wiring or distributor, but just changed the ****on, but just washed the oil off, yet managed to have it running and running well before and broken in except for the oil leaks. Makes trouble shooting even harder. I must have missed something.
glad it was something this stupid and no major failures happened, i once cracked a valve seat for wiring the leads the other way around and keepin on the gas pedal and ignition key! We live we learn...Murphy's a ******* thou!
I think at first there was moisture in the cap, and when I checked the wires and used another set that I know where good I wired the cap clock wise instead of counter. Its all good now!
It's always something simple. I know what you went through. I finally got a line mechanic to check behind me. We bumped it over and checked the rotor...sure enough it was pointing at #1 but not exactly so he said give it another bump. I was thinking that can't make that big a deal. When we popped the cap back off I knew exactly what was wrong and so did he. In stead of not being quite up to # 1 it was slightly past #1 From that day on when I get a problem child, I start over from zero ***uming nothing. I'm sure you will too from now on. I'm glad you found it.
Glad you got it worked out. I once got 5 and 7 crossed up on the 360 in my duster, it would start and run but kept popping through the carb. Being young and dumb I changed carbs, ignition boxes etc.. My Dad walks in the garage and says - "check the firing order". I always hated it when he was right.
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