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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sp1ke, May 10, 2011.

  1. sp1ke
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    If a 1950 ford vin3 starts with B0XP where was it built ???

    thanks sp1ke
     
  2. NMCarNut
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    Is it XP? There is no XP plant code, SP is Saint Paul and MP Memphis. The closest to Xanything is KC Kansas City.
     
  3. sp1ke
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    That is what I think also am trying to confirm at this point.car is a 50 ford conv. listed on ebay for sale whith the xp vin

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  4. NMCarNut
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    If you havn't already, ask them if it is correct. If that is what is on the patent plate, looks reproduced, ask what is on the frame.
     
  5. Hnstray
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    According to my copy of The Standard Catalog of American Cars, a '50 Ford's VIN does NOT begin with the assembly plant code, but with a Model Code, either OHA for a 6 cyl or OBA for an 8 cyl. The model code is followed by the assembly plant code and that is followed by the unit production number which, at all plants, began with 100001 and went up.

    That being the case, a 6cyl built in Kansas City would be OHAKC10xxxx. An equivalent 8 cyl would be OBAKC10xxxx.

    I have a '50 coupe built in Long Beach, CA and it follows this pattern. The attached plate with this number should be near the top of the firewall, near the center.

    Ray
     
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    Although it is a great source, have never fully trusted the "Standard Catalog . . ."
    On 50 to 52 Ford serial numbers:
    First letter is the engine
    Second digit is the year
    Third and fourth letter is the plant code
    Fifth through tenth digit is the consecutive number
     
  7. Dino
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    My 1950 Ford convertible's VIN starts with B0DL.
     
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  9. sp1ke
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    My point exactly.There is no XP plant I know of...

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  10. Hnstray
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    For whatever it is worth, this link's data concurs with The Standard Catalog's ...........description of model/eng/plant codes.

    My car concurs with this format...........I cannot account for why your or other's cars do not concur with what is, apparently, a widely accepted format.

    Ray
     
  11. NMCarNut
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    Maybe I am missing something, but it appears that if your car begins with an O that your car does not meet the format. The link (attached) describes the first position of the serial number as the engine identifier (note there is no O), and the second position the last digit of the year. This also agrees with Ford factory publications, and the first two positions of the serial number use the same format on all Fords from 1950 to 1959.
    Have you checked the serial number on the frame to see if it agrees with your Patent Plate?
     

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  12. will the vin tell you if its a 49 or 50? i dont see 49 listed on that site with vin info. im picking up a shoebox this weekend
     
  13. RG49MERC
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    As stated before the first would be a letter either B=V8 or H=6 cyl followed by a number either 9=49 0=50 or 1 for 51 then follow by 2 letters which tell what plant it was build
     
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  14. NMCarNut
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    Yes, you can tell the year by the serial number on a 49 but the formats used on earlier Fords is different. Also, Ford started to use plant codes in 1950 so you can not tell where the car was built by the serial number in earlier cars.
    This link should tell you what you need:
    http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_serialnumbers.htm



     
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  15. thanks for the info!
     
  16. Hnstray
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    Okay, after re-reading some of these posts and links, especially the last one from Van Pelt, I see where the difference in my obervation and your's can occur. According to the Van Pelt chart they have a column labeled 'model code', which begins with 0 (that is zero, not "O"), which starting in 1950 was the model year, and then engine code followed by plant code. THAT is the format on my firewall tag. In the next column however, labeled 'serial #', the sequence starts with the engine code first.

    Ray
     
  17. Stefan T
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    US fords with STX in vin are made in Sweden (Stockholm)
    My shoebox have ABX in vin but i don't know were it was build
    The car was sold new in Norway
     

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