How effective are juice brakes?

a stick with a handle on the side of the car with sandpaper on the end of it that drags the ground when you pull it

 

I find juice brakes very effective..... with a little gin mixed into the juice... the more gin the more effective.

 

It's not possible that this was a real question by the OP.
If meant to be humorous, the humor is lost on us.
If a real question....uh, no insult meant, but quite ****.

 

Party pooper....................

 

Compared to what?

 

hahahahahahaha

 

Properly adjusted, at the proper service interval, they work very well. They are still subject to fade over long duration braking, so just don't drive like a hoon.

 

My lawn mower has a mechanical disc brake, and it will lock up both rear wheels.......

Ya gotta be careful what kinda juice ya put in the juice brakes, some juice works better then some other juice. Ya put the wrong kinda juice in them juice brakes and the juice brakes get broke. It ****s to have broke juice brakes, they ain't very effective then. Gene

 

Performances are daily at 7 and 11, no two shows alike!

 

Holy ****, why did you ruin the laugh fest with , finally, the proper amount of info to get a helpfull answer!!!!! Damn it i was haveing fun reading that!!!

 

Okay, Okay, now I think we're honing in on what your asking. It was a common term to say, "Yeah, I put juice brakes on my A-bone". Which meant installing the 39-48 hydraulic brakes on a Model A. While I have done that swap, it still doesn't stop as effortlessly as using the self-energizing style brake setup. Now that said, I believe there are kits now available to mount self-energizing brakes on the early ford axles. Anyone else aware of them? Hope my answer wasn't to serious!

 

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He definitely does find it "effective"...but
only if it's prune juice!

Mart3406
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The 39-48 Ford brakes are effective as are the later Bendix style brakes. No doubt the Bendix brakes are better...no one makes the earlier style anymore, not even Ford!

 

Mechanical brakes are a real time lesson on NOT tailgating !!!!!!!!!!!!

4TTRUK

 

The best person to answer your question would be Richard Lacy at earlyv8@aol.com, (626) 338-2282. I bet there is something that could be done using the reproduction early Lincoln brakes (which are Bendix design) and some wide 5 hubs/drums. What are you building and how are you going to run it (racing?)? For most applications and uses I would just run the '39-'48 Ford brakes and save the money. I never thought they were bad brakes, you just have to push a little harder (a problem if you weigh 95 pounds). PS, I always thought the Bendix brakes were juice brakes.

Charlie Stephens

 

Not quite as obvious as you may think. What you ***ume and what is fact are, quite often, not the same. There are two common types of brakes. Mechanical and hydraulic. Hydraulics are, colloquially, known as "juice brakes". Ergo, Duesenbergs, post 38 Fords, Ferraris, and, yes, Hyundais have "juice brakes".

 

We have '39--'48 front brakes on the Flower's A axle roadster with stock (8" Ford rear axle) Ford rears the thing stops with a vengence. I think the juice brakes work very well when properly adjusted.

 

effective, meaning do they work..? yes

I think in the years the "juice" brake technology has been out there it has proven to work in the application they were designed for, thus they are "effective"

 

Cant you just remover the bottom mounts, run different shoes with an adjuster?

Has anyone mentioned the advantages and safety of AIR brakes?

 

If you had posted your question in that form in your first message folks would have known exactly what you were talking about and most likely you would have gotten the answer you sought yesterday, probably within a few hours if not minutes.

Seriously, guys, it helps to word your questions with a great deal of specificity. The expression "juice brakes" just means "hydraulic brakes" to most of us. It certainly doesn't specify "early Ford ('39-'48) hydraulic brakes" regardless of what local nomenclature conventions you may have within your own circle of friends.

It's like the guys who come in and post messages asking for advice on which cam to use without saying what engine they have, what kind of car they're building, what it's going to be used for, what type of intake they plan to use, what kind of transmission they plan to use, or anything else that would help people to know how to answer their question. It's a useless waste of time and forum resources to ask a question like that without giving all of the relevant details.

Sorry to bust your balls a bit like this, but this is becoming a problem here and there's really no reason it has to be like that.

 

You are seriously gonna depend upon little pieces of rubber to seal a hydraulic system to provide braking? sounds dangerous to me

I got Ford hydraulics on my T, it weighs 1700 lbs. I have only had a couple of pucker stops with it, but it will brake better than the tires grip the road.

I got a 54 Chevy with them new fangled Bendix brakes and it stops good, but is very unpridictable driving in rain. sometimes it's good, sometimes it pulls to one side real bad, sometimes it just don't want to do anything til the moisture dries.

Now the Ford brakes don't care about driving in the rain. The braking is the same as dry. This could be because they are not self-energizing, I don't know. Or are the backing plates baffled better to not let water get in there? I don't have them adjusted tight , so dragging is not drying them off.

After having the old style Ford brakes work as good as they do, I'd go with them over the improved Bendix upgraded expensive stuff on a light car.

Frank

 

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This was awesome!!

Sarge, having run a set of both on a Model A I have to say I think the 53-56 F100s function a little bit better than the '39-'48s, however; the early juicers definitely look better.

If I had one or the other I wouldn't go looking, but if I had to buy something I'd aim for the 53-56 F100 brakes, but if I found an affordable set of '39-'48s first I wouldn't turn them down.

The Speedway drum brakes are knockoffs of the 1939 Lincoln brakes, 12" and self energizing/adjustable/whatever... I'd imagine they're great brakes if you have the scratch, but I don't so I haven't tried 'em...

Just my opinion...

 

this probably has to do to the type of lining. on a few newer, off topic cars, i have had to replace the new linings/pads with a different brand because of "strange" symptoms.

 

I usually have to go change my britches when my juice breaks....

 

Your use of the outdated term "juice brakes" was the problem. Why should anyone do a search of the HAMB, eBay, Craigslist or anything else to try to figure out what you mean? Try using proper terminology when posing a question rather than colloquialisms or local slang. If you ask what "juice brakes" are to any car guy I'll bet the farm that the answer will be, "hydraulic brakes.", not a specific year or style.
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The worst case of slang causing a bit of confusion, for me, was when I was in the service and a good ol' boy from the south announced that he had gotten himself some **** last night. I told him that was nice, but he should keep it to himself.
Nobody was being pedantic at all. They, seriously, did not know what you were asking. You will notice that once you clarified yourself, most of the comedy ceased

 

To be honest, I dont see what the problem was with the term Juice Brakes.

I think that is what they called them, when they meant the first gereration of hydraulic Ford brakes.

I know a Hot Rodder who told me his Halibrand Quick Change rear axle had Latemodel axles.

What he meant was, axles out of something like a Shoebox Ford.

That was a Latemodel, when he put it together....

 

Run the wide 5, early Ford, non self-adjusting, un-Bendixy, hydraulic brakes as they will be more than adequate for your application. Spend a bit of time learning how and when to adjust them (***uming you don't already know), mount up your wide 5's and go (and stop too!)

Steve

 

1) Colloquialism. Seriously? Now I have to contend with overachieving vocabulary choices, along with the sudden surge in Hamb chemists?

2) the comedy ceased when it wasn't funny anymore... I'm pretty sure that most of those who tossed jokes out like a madman bailing water understood just fine what he meant.