hey all been playing with an idea tell me if im nuts i have apair of lake pipes for my shoebox im planning on running them as my exhaust (not just hanging on the car) my question is do they (anyone) make a baffel for motorcycles that will fit inside the lake pipe in the end where the lake comes out from under the car and 90's to run along the side if i have to cut em down to fit thats cool what i dont want is something thats gonna rattle like hell inside the pipe i dont want to run mufflers because of all the extra bends and stuff to route them into the lakes can baffels be bought seperate? or will i have to cut some out of an exhaust set off a bike? are there any "old school" (god, i HATE that phrase) ways of muffling a pair of lakes if possible id like to get a heavy deep sound out of the pipes without choking my flathead to death any ideas oir suggestion are very welcome
Can you get them in the pipes without cutting the pipes in two? I've run "hardware cloth" that screen with about 1/4 or so inch holes in a scavenger pipe before with a machine screw to hold it in. The baffles sound like a good idea if you can get them in the pipes. Ebay shows hundreds of them to give you an idea of what to ask for at the bike shop. I forgot about J&P cycles. I just got my weekly email from them on their specials. http://www.jpcycles.com/baffles
I just put 2 mufflers in before the lakes.. they have the inlet and outlet on the same end =[ ] kinda like that
It has been done many times, but be aware of this: The peak flow in the typical V-8 header tube is a lot more than motorcycle baffles usually need to flow. So, make sure you aren't causing excess more restriction.
A typical motorcycle baffle stuck into the straight pipe on your car isn't going to change the sound much, but it will cause quite a bit of back pressure - the worst of both worlds!
i believe they had something about using baffels in streetrodder mag last year u could check in to that forgot how they did it or what they used tho
My new phrase is Old World. I doubt thast it will ever catch on. From my experience most lakes pipes were never really hooked up they just hung on there for looks. I don't know of a way to effectivly baffle/muffle them. Most motor cycle baffles were a mushroom looking thing that you stuffed in the end of the pipe and held in with a screw. What they did more than anything else was make you legal in some states. You could by them the correct size for you lakes pipes and put them on the front end instead of the outlet hold them in with a screw and let the length of the pipe take the harshness out of it.
I've got a VW stinger baffle modified and stuffed in the pipe. Wrapped some extra 'gl*** around it before installing it. Almost too quiet.
Check out 'Car Chemistry' - they sell baffles. Kelly, here on the HAMB also has some baffles for sale.
Hey man,strayed across this thread and thought I'd just put my two cents worth in. I love me some Lake pipes, mostly because of the way they look on a Kustom, not the sound. As our good friend Benno points out, I'd bet that if you took a count of how many Kustom guys "back in the day" (the phrase is my pet hate) actually hooked up there lakes, I'd bet the percentage that said yes would be pretty small. And I've heard a lot of reports about them being so harsh and loud that they take a lot of the fun out of cruising. I'll come clean from the beginning and say that I run dummy lakes, and the reason I decided to do this was not only because I like the sound of my porters, but also because some of the solutions to Frenching and recessing said dummies into the rockers rather than just hanging them underneath are nothing short of art in themselves, but they were never hooked up because they just blister your paint and who wants that? May I suggest that you search the many Kustom threads running at the moment and check out some of the dummy lakes pipes treatments and see if any of those inspire you? There seems to be a kind of "macho" movement at the moment that hates anything fake, you know "if you don't hook them up you should run them" that sort of, from what I can tell, almost flies in the face of tradition and tries to rewrite history from a "I'm such a bad *** I don't care if my ears bleed" perspective. My carers are about to come to put me to bed now so I don't have time to look for and post up examples, but I can show you what you clever ******* that did mine came up with (obviously it's not on a shoebox, it's just an example of how fake can look good) best of luck whatever you decide to do Paul
I put VW baffles as well ,15.00 a piece you cant beat. I recommend ditching the fibergl*** blanket at just blows out and makes you itch.LOL http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC-D-2538 Oops wrong lakes, maybe it will help someone else,sorry.
I have lakes that I run on my 53 chevy with split manifolds I ran into the same problem what I did was put 8 inch motorcycle baffles from eBay in the straight part of the exhaust that goes out to the lake pipes they are fastened with a bolt it got rid off the popping ***ociated with straight pipes and it sounds pretty good if you look to the right of the clamp in the picture you can see the bolt that holds it in
It is fairly simple to make a set of M/C type baffles, been doing it for a while now. Kinda hard to explain, but get a piece if muffler pipe the diameter of the baffle. The diameter will dictate the sound reduction. You can make them as long or short as you want. So, lets say you end up with a section of pipe 2" diameter by 30" long (example). Make short 1" to 1 1/4" crosscuts in the pipe with a handheld cutoff wheel. Establish a pattern first allowing space between the cuts. Make the cuts in a "spiral" offset pattern (like they are on baffles). After the cuts are made, use a large hammer and a punch and "dimple" the backside of each cut. This will create to "cheese grater" surface you are looking for. You could use heat to help the dimple, but I've never needed to. From sheet metal, cut the round ends. OD to fit your pipe and ID for the baffle. You will need rings for the ends to interference fit your pipe. Weld it all together, weld in some nuts to hold it in your pipe, wrap in packing and install. Make sense? Can't do photos right now.
Straight lakes pipes really arent that loud. With a 350 it was loud under extreme acceleration (floored it). Not sure a flathead moves enough air for it to be actually "noisy"
thanks guys for the replys noisy (sounding good ) doesnt bother me noisy like a marble banging around in a tin can does there are some creative ideas presented and youve got me thinking about other ways of doing this kripfrink,yeah i hate the phrase "back in the day" also . i was thinking of (i guess its called frenching) the lakes by running a body colored sleave welded to the rocker panel covering any of the possible blueing of the pipes my grilfriend pontiac has dummy lakes on it but shes got a .040 over 350 and i think hers would be alittle loud throught the lakes so i put a pair of smithy's on hers i know a stock flattie hasnt got the compression of a later v-8 so i was figuring i could get by with running the lakes only but im just tryin to avoid any droning or popping tin canny sound by the way may lakepipes are stainless
i used bike baffles from j&p cheapos and wrapped em with steel wool and bolted em in sounds great only noisy in side ,,
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