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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by BADFISH, Apr 22, 2005.

  1. BADFISH
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  2. unclescooby
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  3. alchemy
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  5. Petejoe
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    Cool car but I last I heard...ebay heads up is a no-no.:D



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  6. Old relic or not... that's an ugly-ass hot rod.

    Sam.
     
  7. Ryan
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    ebay threads on the main board are fine... just not in the classifieds..
     
  8. I hear you Sam... Now with a few items cleaned up (the entire front end) it could be a real nice ride....
     
  9. Gotgas
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    That's what I was thinking. What a miserable old five window..
     
  10. just steve
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    Damn your west-coast sensibilities, Sam!

    Yeah, it's kinda odd, but it's actually pretty typical of a "high end" midwest or eastern hot rod for the time.

    Car is pretty neat - I saw it in person at an event in central Iowa at least 15 years ago. Mostly original '50s with some minor upgrades over the years. I'm pretty sure it was featured in Hot Rod in '57 or so.

    The same guy in Iowa also owned a very cool hand-built sports car (Hemi power) that was featured in HRM in '59 or so. He loved both cars and took immaculate care of them for many years. Kinda sad to see this one going back and forth on e-bay like some kind of commodity.

    Steve.
     
  11. BADFISH
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    lots of opinions... hell, some peaple drive brite orange Fiberglass Cars???

    I had a old pic of a newYork City Car club (A.K.a "Street Gang") I don't remember their names. Tuff ass cars. They were all set up real close to this one.. Font ends varied. that pic was from the late 50's.



    I would like my Front end alittle more taditional... Never was into Red either. but I would LOve to have that car. I wouldnt change a thing.


    Out of my league , becouse of the price I bet it will fetch. I'm glad all rods dont look the same. Nice Steel (Real) car.
     
  12. Neat? Sure.

    Cool? Yea.

    Pretty? No.

    When I first saw a pic of it... I imagined some 20" billet wheels on it, and a fancy leather interior in it... leaving the rest alone... it would fit right in on the main floor of the GNRS with all the other Jelly beans of 1985.

    I do agree that it is sad to see it traded back and forth... bringing more money each time... it does not give it a chance to get a little "history" of it's own with the current owners.

    Sam.
     
  13. tinyelvis
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    Call me crazy.. but.. I like it! I would probably nix the turn signals on the fender, maybe mold the headlights in a little better - and a different grill treatment... but I think it's cool overall. I would buy it! I think it would cool in a dark copper color.. cream steelies... hmm..

    :)
     
  14. just steve
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    Well hell, I never said it was pretty. Pretty typical yes, but not pretty. :D

    It's just cool because it's a perfectly preserved "show rod" from the late '50s -- a true survivor.

    But yeah, I am glad that THIS isn't the style that got iconified into what we think of as a "traditional" hot rod!

    Steve
     
  15. Django
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    Why, because it is red?? I disagree. I like it. Alot. Regardless of it's history, it's a neat design. They can't all look the same. It's not ugly just cause it variates from the Southern California Traditional Apperance (SCTA) standard. ;)

    What is ugly about it and why? There are some minor things I have liked to have seen done differently, such as the tail light selection. But that's not that big a deal.
     
  16. lucky_1974
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    I don't know if it makes it ugly, but I think the engine compartment is to large and takes away from the over all balance. Thats just my take though.:)
     
  17. Django
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    I disagree. It's part of the design. An essential element to the look. The coachbuilt cars of the era all had long hoods. Look at the drawing Thom Taylor did in last month's Street Rodder where he took a Duesenburg and applied hot rod tricks to it. Looks killer. And unique.

    Next. :)
     
  18. Gotgas
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    The over-sectioned body, the grille, the motorcycle fenders, the molded rear fenders, painted suspension, the exhaust... I could go on.

    Really, the only thing I like about it is the flattie and the hood sides, that's kinda different. Plus it's a '32 and a Survivor, that's neat. Just not my cup of tea, but I don't mind being in the minority. :)
     
  19. fatassbuick
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    It looks like it jumped out of a Henry Gregor Felsen book. With a little bit of cleaning up (turn signals on the fenders have gotta go), that would be an awesome little car. Probably fun and (dare I say) somewhat comfortable, too.
     
  20. lucky_1974
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    Coachbuilt cars have other styling ques that enhance the long hood. Large flowing fenders, running boards. This thing is missing all that including the hood.:eek: If it had a V12 I could understand and appreciate it much more.

    I think it would have been better without removing the top portion of the cowl. The windshield is to close to the engine compartment.

    There was a sectioned full fendered 34 ford in Rodders Journal 3-5 issues ago that nailed the coach look and reminded me of a mini duesenburg.

    That being said I total respect your design sense and I usually agree with you, so imagine my shock when we disagreed on this.:D
     
  21. Ryan
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    Chad coaxed me into responding to this one... I like the car with only two exceptions...

    1. I'd like to see the front frame horns pinched inside the grille shell. As it stands, I think the front end is a tad dirty. Fix that along with the grille shell "extension" and I think the car would really stand out.

    2. I'm not huge on the front fenders. Cycle fenders would help a lot.

    In my opinion, that car is not far away from being super cool. It has as Bob Bleed look to it in away... I'd own it for sure.
     
  22. Nads
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    It's pretty.....ugly.
     
  23. Django
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    Haha, it's ok Lucky, I am feeling sassy today. :D

    That Thom Taylor drawing didn't have fenders either. His was over exagerated, but the point was to shake things up and get people thinking.

    I see your point on the cowl, but with the section job, I think that upsweeping line into the windshield makes it work.

    I LIKE the turn signals in the fenders. The way they sweep forward and are moulded in works well.

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  24. Kevin Lee
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    That car isn't sectioned - it's channeled. I think it's kind of goofy looking as it sets...I also think it could be made into a really cool hot rod within a week.

    Unbolt the front fenders and rear nerf bar. Section an original insert for the grille. Find a way to stuff the induction under that hood - I like that long hood for some reason. If not, make a new hood and just cut a hole or form a blister in it. And now for the really nasty part. Torch the lead out of those rear fenders and find a way to get them off of the car. (I would hire Harrison's dad to do this :) ) Dye the interior dark maroon or black. And then...paint the suspension black the wheels black, and the body...black.
     
  25. Django
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    Aw crap, now I'm behind.

    I agree on the frame rails Ryan.
     
  26. Kevin Lee
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    I wonder if the wheelbase is any longer than stock? The front end looks long...which is wierd because the suspension is set up spring in front - and that usually makes the front look stubby. There's just something really cool about that hood and opening. I wish they showed a picture with it on the car.
     
  27. Django
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    I don't think this is the car for black paint. The red can stay but I'd like to see some kind of metallic blue or green.

    I'd leave the hood off as well.

    I do think the rear bumper is bulky and need to be about 75% of it's current size.
     
  28. lucky_1974
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    Its a hood away from being pretty cool and I agree with you on the front fenders, just a bit of refining.
     
  29. lucky_1974
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  30. It's dorky and fugly. I don't usually say anythinng bad about peoples rides but that thing is nasty. It needs to be ripped apart and new quarters, lose the fenders, get rid of the alu. firewall & queer cowl/hood side mold job, the Sanden a/c compressor, bumpers, rounded door corners, etc.etc.etc.etc...looks like some sorta Packard. And what's with that radiator core support looking U shaped funk under the grill shell ? sheesh. I like the dirt bike mud clearance height of the rear fenders though...LOL. It looks like it got cancer and they had to cut it's nose (cowl top) off despite it's face.
     

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