Bought this recently , told it was from a museum that von dutch and ed roth did signwork for.Ive seen similar ones in a catalogue anyone no how i can verify it ?.
Certainly looks like Von Dutch's handiwork with the airbrush rivets. The German style font I could see as either guy doing it. Saying that, who the heck knows?
andycpsco That is 100% the handiwork of Von Dutch. The sign you have was part of the Cars of The Stars/Planes of Fame Museum which was located in Beuna Park California in the '70s. It was owned by the Brucker Family and after is closed most of the contents moved to their property in Santa Paula, California. At one time they were the premiere collectors of Von Dutch, Ed Roth and Robert Williams. Ed Roth and Von Dutch created all the displays and signage at the Brucker's museum. It was quite an amazing place that was way ahead of it's time. Check this out for more info: www.tornadodesign.la/store/dutchbookorder.html?sid=0001miTCOv8NfIYtTY6D2V7 www.amazon.com/Von-Dutch-Myth-Legend-Cartech/dp/1884089984
Three absolute confirmations, I would be curious as to what make everyone sure that it is the work of Von Dutch.
Everything about it screams "DUTCH" from the typography, masking, spraying, colors used and his style. You can see his hand in every part of it. His lettering is almost always just slightly off, which is cool because the hand done nature of it. I had a chance to look through almost every sign that was done for the Brucker's. If you put them side by side you can tell which one's were done by Dutch and which ones were done by Roth. So Jeem and Jim were spot on. -Aaron
Well I have to go with my intuition, being in the sign business for 50 years. This is a very amateurish sign, if it was done by Von Dutch. Many of the signs I have seen of Von Dutch were much more professional than this. As to the masking, I only see three stars and two straight lines that look like they were air brushed over a stencil. Don't see anything that was masked. The typography is basically a block and a speedball alphabet used by most beginners. The top and bottom line of the block lettering was taped off before the lettering, something I doubt Von Dutch would have done. There is no indication of brushwork at the bottom of the letters which is a dead giveaway that it is not period. As to the color screaming Von Dutch it is green chalkboard with white letters. One shot letters from the day, especially used inside at a museum would have been a lot better coverage. Might have been poster color. None of us will know, which is actually what Jeem said, but I wouldn't say that it was Von Dutch because it is so poorly done. Just my opinion.
I'm gonna say No. Not a Von Dutch work. Unless he did it when he was very plastered. The letter spacing is terrible. here is the real deal. pay close attention to the spacing between letters. as well as the overall balance.
Not all of Von Dutch's work was perfect. A lot of it depended on his mood, how much he had had to drink and also if he liked you. He didn't always sign his work and sometimes his signature varied a lot. The work Von Dutch did for the museum replaced a lot of Roth's signs. Roth was a better sign painter, but Dutch's sign's were more creative and usually had a bit of humor in them. Below is a detail of the Dutched sign from the Eddie Munster bicycle display at Movieworld. You can see the pencil line guides and sketching. The type on all these signs is painted, not rub down type. The two other signs for one of the guns dutch did and the other one was from the Bruckers gate in Santa Paula. If you look carefully at the lettering it was also done by the same hand who created the sign that was initially posted. -Aaron
The munster sign sure shows a lot more work creativity with the air brushing and shading and the lettering has much better spacing which is the point I was trying to make. There is no comparison between the first OP sign and the munster sign i my opinion. Also, as I said look at the coverage of the white on the munster sign. We just have a different opinion and that makes these things very hard to prove.
i thought of Von Dutch right away looking at the first picture. my vote says thats has Von Dutch written all over it.
Thanks for the feedback. I reckon you'r right in saying no one will ever know. It makes for a nice piece though,shame there wasnt a picture of it in the museum.
Here are some more signs to compare. I think Aaron might know what he's talking about since he has curated a couple of VD shows. These photos are from the Brucker Auction, and many of the Dutch signs were crude. This time was his Joe Lunchbox gig, so quality varied, and luckily the Bruckers like having this guy around. The Danny's Chopper and Yellow Fang are listed as Roth signs, and you can see the lettering difference. The Rotar sign is also listed as Roth in the Brucker Catalog, but this clearly has the trademarks of Dutch.
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