Any tricks to working on a car that was in a fire?

I think all Mopars were unibody (except trucks) beginning in 1962.

Jim

 

Not always.

 

Put it out first! Man I learned that one the hard way!!

Doc.





Are you sick of us smart asses yet??

 

well its apparent I don't know much about these Superbird thingys,but i do know it is a "rare" muscle car. That being said I would not attempt the whole vin thing either,unless everything was disclosed at which point your gonna be in the loose your ass department as well. Hate to say it,but i would cut my losses.

 

First trick is putting out the fire...............

 

Unfortunately it is a waste of your time, something happens to the metal in a fire and it ain't good, it will never be the same & unfortunately you will always have problems. It's just like a car that has a dead body in it, you can get rid of everything but the metal itself but the smell is always there, same with a fire, the car will always be a fire car and never again be right. At best the car is now uber rare yard art.

 

Aside from the obvoius that swapping vins is illegal. There is something that everyone is not paying attention to the daytona is just that a daytona. They mad a handfull of them to seel to the public because NASCAR used to use real cars and they had to be available to the public, thus the name "Stock car". there was not a body panel on the Super Bird or the Daytona that was the same as common Charger or a Road Runner. They were designed to be a slippery SOB and cruise @ 200+ on the high banks.

if you are going to find the proper panels to make it a Daytona or a Super Bird you may as well fraft them onto the original. They did share a floor pan with the charger or road runner so you could put a repop floor pan in and go from there.

You will basically be building a repop car from scratch.

Good luck whatever you decide to do with it.

 

sell it to somebody who doesnt relize its ruined.

 

This car came back after being burned..
Bwa ha ha ha

 

Did the VIN plate burn? Then all else is replaceable.

 

the guys are right,once burnt won't hold paint,1/2 done is doing the 40,looks good,but will it hold paint.????

 

Put the fire out first? No?

 

There is burned as in the Deuce in the link that someone posted that we watched get rebuilt a few months ago and then there is destroyed as in hot enough to warp the springs and melt the trans. Lots of differences in the two situations. I can understand the desire to own one but would think that trying to rebuild a car that was burned that bad would be far more headaches than one might ever be able to get past. If it wasn't his to begin with I hope he didn't pay real money for it.

 

My advice, look at the vehicle, find the nearest exit and RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN!

 

That shit isn't even remotely close.

Direct from that bull shit site:

[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]3.1 STEEL[/FONT]
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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Temperature[/FONT]​

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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]320°[/FONT]​

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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]350°[/FONT]​

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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]400°[/FONT]​

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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]450°[/FONT]​

</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="Normal" valign="bottom" nowrap="nowrap"> [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]* loses 50% of its structural strength and sags at 550°[/FONT]
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The real deal:

<table summary="Temperatures at which temper colors occur on plain carbon steel and the hardness resulting from tempering at that temperature/color" width="550" border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]English Color Text[/FONT]</th> <th align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Fahrenheit[/FONT]</th> <th align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] Color [/FONT]</th> <th align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Celsius[/FONT]</th> <th align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]SAE
1040[/FONT]</th> <th align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]SAE
1050[/FONT]</th> <th align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]SAE
1070[/FONT]</th> <th align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]SAE
1095[/FONT]</th> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Clear - As fully hardened[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]100°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]38°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]54[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]59[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]64[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]67[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Pale yellow ²[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]420°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFDD"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]216°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]51[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]55[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]59[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]63[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Very pale yellow ¹[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]430°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFDD"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]221°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Light yellow^{1, 2}, Straw³[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 440°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#FFFFAA"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 227°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Pale straw-yellow¹, Straw³[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 450°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#FFFF99"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 232°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]50[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]54[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Straw-yellow^{1, 2}[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 460°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#FFFF66"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 238°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]62[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Deep straw-yellow^{1, 3}[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 470°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#FFff33"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 243°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Dark yellow¹, Light orange³[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 480°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#FFDD33"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 249°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]58[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Yellow-brown¹, Orange³[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 490°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#EEbb30"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 254°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]49[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]53[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]61[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Brown-yellow^{1, 3}, Bronze²[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 500°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#DAA520"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 260°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]<nobr>Spotted red-brown¹, Dark Brown²</nobr>[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 510°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#996666"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 266°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Brown with purple spots^{1, 2}[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 520°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#996688"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 271°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]52[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]57[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Light purple^{1, 2}, Purple³[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 530°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#DD00FF"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 277°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]48[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]60[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Full purple¹, Purple²[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 540°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#CC00CC"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 282°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Dark purple¹[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 550°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#9900BB"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 288°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Full blue^{1, 3}[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 560°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#3300BB"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 293°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]47[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]51[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]56[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]59[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Dark blue¹, Blue²[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 570°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#000090"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 299°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Dark blue²[/FONT]</td> <td rowspan="2" align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 590°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#000080"> </td> <td rowspan="2" align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 310°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]58[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Pale blue³[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#98eeff"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]46[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]50[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]55[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Light blue²[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 610°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#98eeff"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 321°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Greenish blue², Grey³[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 630°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#baffee"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 332°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]45[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]54[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]57[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Light blue¹[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 640°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#DCFFFF"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 338°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] [/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Steel grey²[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 650°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#ededfd"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 343°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]44[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]47[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]53[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]56[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td rowspan="4" align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Steel grey[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 700°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#ededfd"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 371°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]42[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]46[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]51[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]54[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 750°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#dddddd"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 400°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]40[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]44[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]50[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]52[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 800°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#cdcdcd"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 427°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]38[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]42[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]47[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]49[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 900°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#b0b0b0"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] 482°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]35[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]37[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]43[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]44[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Lowest visible red[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]1000°[/FONT]</td> <td bgcolor="#683F3E"> </td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]538°[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]30[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]32[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]36[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]39[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]English Colour Text[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Fahrenheit[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif] Colour [/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Celsius[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]SAE
1040[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]SAE
1050[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]SAE
1070[/FONT]</td> <td align="center">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]SAE
1095[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="8">[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-serif]Converted temps. rounded to nearest degree. Hardness +/- 1Rc @ +/-5°F of published data.[/FONT]</td></tr></tbody></table>
What the hell are they doing down under?


Sorry about all that, I got side tracked from the issue at hand. Can you get paint to stick to a car that has been in a fire? Yes.

Will it peel off down the road? Depends on the prep work.

A lot of painters and body men get used to cutting corners to keep productivity up and make more money. This is the down fall of paying auto body techs by book time. Proper prep work i.e. sand down to 180 grit, paying close attention to all cracks and crevices. This is where things get a bit wierd, I would wash the whole panel down with water and dish soap to remove any water based contaminates, then lightly re-sand to remove any flash rust. Scrub vigorously the whole panel with a quality wax and grease remover. Then immediately prime with an acid etch primer. The kind that you actually mix an acid into a primer component. If the catalyst comes in a metal can its not acid. Then you will be good to got no peeling problems. The problems happen when particles of smoke and soot remain in the pores of the metal. If you do it the lazy way every time you re paint it, it's no wonder the paint keeps peeling off.

Its not magic, its hard work.

 

i would leave it bare metal cage it slap a new frame under it and beat it mercilessly at vintage racing events to at least get some use from it that and people would probably commend you for at least doing something

 

Dirt track Daytona, now thats a helluva idea.

 

Yeah, so he can fix it, sell it and kill a family in another part of the country...it would never be safe to fix...

 

Mopar went unibody except Imperial in '60, Imperial in '67 or '68.

The under parts could be replaced from a donor car, probably a Coronet or Sattelite 4dr would even work. The body is just a Charger with a nose, wing, and flush rear window so all that could be replaced. Trouble is by the time you're done it basically amounts to jacking up the VIN tag and rolling a new car under it.

 

Unibody car. The only detachable frame is that 'K' Member...

The Superbird is a Plymouth Belvedere (Roadrunner) with Charger fenders. The nose and the wing are the hard pieces. There were filler panels welded (cruedly) around the rear window for air flow reasons, hence all the Superbirds having vinyl tops. Everything else is Roadrunner.

The car is all Plymouth except for the fenders. Even the nose is different between the Daytona and Superbird. If there is a benefit, there were roughly 4 times as many Superbirds than Daytonas. If the fire was that hot, I'd bet the VIN and fender tag melted in the fire leaving just the hidden VINs.

Another thing you guys are missing is that the Winged Warriors and a few Mopar Clubs have documented these cars. It won't take that long before they know what happened to this car, even if you were able to get the VIN repopped.

It's sad to lose a car like this, but even sadder to see someone try and rebuild what is basically scrap, especially since no one will want anything to do with that car.

 

Hello,
there has been many documented cases of burnt vehicles and trying to repair them. I would get hold of your paint rep and have some communication with them. They are the pros and know their product. They always get called when something goes sideways so I would ask them.
thanks
Dale

 

Man I respect the hell out of this board's knowledge about hot rods and customs, but when it comes to muscle cars y'all should just stick to e-kicking people's asses for posting them here and not reply as if you know anything about them.

@KrisKustomPaint - thanks for finding better info on temp effects on metal.

 

Get out your wire brush and then POR 15 it.

Put tires on it and then use it as a lawn ornament!

POR is availble in silver so don't spare the $, do the chrome silver.

 

If you can't get the paint to stick you are doing something wrong.

 

KRISKUSTOMPAINT;well i guess i better scrap my fire burnt 35 olds dame .......lol

 

I'll buy at $100 over scrap! Thats a good deal, you should take it. Same deal goes for the Daytona.