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Good gm 400 heads

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by MR MOPAR, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. MR MOPAR
    Joined: Jun 7, 2011
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    MR MOPAR
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    from california

    what's are good heads for 70's gm 400 short block?
    want to get current junkyard heads
    when complete it made 10:5 to 1 compression
    want compression to stay like that
    shortblock cam is a hydraulic probably 484 lift variety
    told it's general kinetics
     
  2. slammed
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    Vortech's will flow power, but stock do not like lifts above .470, without some mods. TONS of good aftermarket (new) heads for under $1000. Check the ads.
     
  3. MR MOPAR
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    MR MOPAR
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    from california

    new bad
    junkyard heads good
    don't know what vortec is and don't want to know
    shipping from anywhere for 2 35# heads is
    more than i want to pay for the heads
    big block chryslers could run .509 hyd and only one thing needed to be
    checked
    will check that .484 lift stuff
    i agree
    no skittles for larry
     
  4. henry29
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    If you use the 350 heads you will have to drill 6 steam holes in the heads.
     
  5. MR MOPAR
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    from california

    ok i'm redoing this post
    drilling steam holes seems like a known thing for sbc heads
    will check with our machine shop
    so we're wide open again
    what's a good head to use?
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2011
  6. Jmountainjr
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    Really need more info. You said 400 short block - so you must have pistons in it? If so, what is the dome or more likely dish volumne? And what compression ratio are you looking for when done? With that you'll have a better idea of what combustion chamder cc you are looking for when shopping for cylinder heads.
     
  7. slammed
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    Votech's are the best sbc head to roll out the factory. They are in the junkyards. New, they are $500-600. 30 horse's over the old double hump head.
     
  8. aaggie
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    Unless you can do the machine work yourself and already own the parts, there is little to be gained buying junkyard heads. Several speed equipment catalogs list the new iron Vortec heads for around $300 about the same as a local GM parts department if you get a shop discount.

    Make sure you use a head gasket made for the 400 block and the heads have the steam holes drilled. It will overheat if you don't.
     
  9. xsquiden
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    late 60's early 70's heads dont know the number you can drill the heads yourself use the headgasket as a template
     
  10. Jmountainjr
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    Just be aware that most Vortec heads have combustion chambers down around 58cc and the original 400 head was 76cc. You need to match the piston head configuration to the combustion chamber size to arrive at your desired compression ratio.
     
  11. racer32
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    You need 487 castings.
     
  12. KooDaddy
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    from Wis.

    Dito : Junk yards have many. Do a 3 angle regrind add new springs and retainers good to go.
     
  13. "don't know what vortec is and don't want to know"



    Really? You ask about heads yet refuse this suggestion ...



    Vortec's CAN be found in the wrecking yard because they ARE a factory GM head, Mr. Genius. Blah blah blah ... whatever


    I see you have 4 posts on this site so far ... here's a big tip for you ... This is a great site for info ... listen and learn and if you don't understand something (like Vortec heads for example) ASK.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2011
  14. racer32
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    borntoloze, Vortec heads on a stock 400 short block will have WAY too much compression-it'll quickly hammer the pistons to death on anything but race gas. Mr. Mopar isn't building a motor from scratch and needs 76cc chambers so his engine will run on the swill they sell as "gasoline" nowdays.
     
  15. Blind Elwood
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    Your kidding right? Shipping from where I work to south of LA is under $100.00 for 70 lbs. Google Vortec cylinder heads.
     
  16. mysteryman
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    from atlanta

    i would run a set of 882 casting numbers.plus you have to run special intake with vortec heads.
     
  17. racer32
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    I'd p*** on 882 heads-prone to cracks. The 487 heads are heavier castings, and were used on the 71-72 LT1 Camaro and the L-48 and L82 Vettes. They're gonna be more expensive and harder to find than 882's, but I think they'd be worth it.
     
  18. fiveohnick2932
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    Nice at***ude buddy! Get over your self!
     
  19. slammed
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    He's 'nother ****on' New Guy. Dude, Go flip a coin!
     
  20. Duration
    Joined: Oct 2, 2006
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    Duration
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    from Wayne, MI

    Get rid of the general kinetics cam. they are garbage. quality ****ed on them, lift numbers will be different from lobe to lobe!
     

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